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BirdGuano
09-05-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/us/06highway.html?hp

By DAVID STOUT
Published: September 5, 2008

WASHINGTON — An important account in the federal Highway Trust Fund will run out of money this month, which could hamper completion of road and bridge construction projects across the country, Transportation Secretary Mary E. Peters said on Friday.

Because the fund is draining away so fast, the Transportation Department will have to delay payments for the local projects, or reduce their amount, Ms. Peters said at a mid-day news conference.

Ms. Peters said her department will begin to dole out money from the fund on a pro-rated basis. For instance, if there are only enough funds to cover 80 percent of the payment requests the department receives for federally financed local projects, the agency will pay only 80 percent of each request.

“Time and again, the president has warned Congress of the pending shortfall and submitted fiscally prudent budgets to close the gap,” Ms. Peters said, in remarks that reflected the political nature of the long-running debate over how to pay for road-building.

State transportation officials reacted to the announcement with alarm. The development will have “grave repercussions for the states, for hundreds of thousands of workers in the construction industry and the driving public,” said John Horsley, executive director of the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials.

“It will worsen the financial crises many states are already facing, and it will delay or halt needed transportation projects and leave contractors and suppliers with I.O.U.’s instead of cash to pay their workers,” Mr. Horsley said in a statement.

Whether Mr. Horsley’s dire prediction will come true, or whether the money shortage will be corrected when Congress reconvenes and the lawmakers hear from their constituents, is anybody’s guess. But at least for the moment, the trust fund’s problems have cast a shadow over highway work from coast to coast.

The trust fund’s highway account is being rapidly depleted because Americans have reacted to the high price of gasoline by driving less, Ms. Peters said. Doobie The fund gets its money from federal excise taxes on motor fuel: 18.4 cents a gallon on gasoline and 24.4 cents a gallon on diesel. But for months, Americans have been driving fewer miles than before it has been costing them more.

One possible solution would be to transfer money to the highway account from the separate account that the trust fund maintains to finance mass transit projects. :cursing: That account is much smaller, though, and in any case, Ms. Peters said such a transfer would merely rob Peter to pay Paul. Bang Head Lawmakers from large cities that rely on trust-fund aid for their transit systems could be expected to resist a transfer.

In July, the House passed a bill that would use $8 billion of general federal revenue — from income and other taxes, not the dedicated motor fuel tax — to finance highway projects. But the measure has not gained much traction in the Senate, and the White House has been hostile to it in any event. Whether some positions will change, as Congress returns to the capital and the election campaign grows hotter, remains to be seen.

MomCares
09-05-2008, 09:57 PM
... and which fund is being used to rebuild all the highways and bridges we bombed and are reconstructing in Iraq?

Michael
09-05-2008, 10:27 PM
And the Big Dick just went over to the Ukraine to promise everyone a billion bucks to build their highways and bridges. How about putting a lien on his exorbitant pension to pay for that and take that billion and spend it ...

HERE IN AMERICA!!!

I guess the Bushies in power just have no priority on AMERICA FIRST.

MomCares
09-05-2008, 10:29 PM
COUNTRY FIRST... but which country?


MomCares

Sooth
09-06-2008, 12:52 PM
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Several years ago I posted on another board that Bush had three objectives:
To destroy the American Military
To destroy the American economy
To open the Southern border to any and all

Those were the objectives that were glaringly obvious when his administration began. My vision was clearly shortsighted and narrow. One of the major goals of this administration has been to privatize all government functions. The administration and collection of funds for major toll roads and parts of the highways in our Interstate system (originally built to move Defense Department equipment rapidly under Eisenhower) have been sold off to countries that do not like us very much. All of this has been done in the name of efficiency and economy. The real reason has been unmitigated greed.

We have a lot of work to do in and for this country. I hope we soon get an administration that will consider the Constitution and The People of The United States of America first and hand holding Saudi Princes dead last.

Sooth

BirdGuano
09-06-2008, 08:33 PM
And the Big Dick just went over to the Ukraine to promise everyone a billion bucks to build their highways and bridges. How about putting a lien on his exorbitant pension to pay for that and take that billion and spend it ...

HERE IN AMERICA!!!

I guess the Bushies in power just have no priority on AMERICA FIRST.

:re: The Imperial Presidency again ?

The Democratically-controlled Congress controls the purse strings.

The check is signed by Paulsen, but it's approved by Congress first.

They could stop this shit any time they wanted, but they're in on the game.

MomCares
09-06-2008, 09:09 PM
The Democratically-controlled Congress controls the purse strings.
In the interest if intellectual honesty, one should point out that the Democrats have not had a working majority (given a hostile president) for a very long time.

OTOH, the Republicans have until recently enjoyed a near-absolute majority.


MomCares

BirdGuano
09-07-2008, 01:05 AM
In the interest if intellectual honesty, one should point out that the Democrats have not had a working majority (given a hostile president) for a very long time.

OTOH, the Republicans have until recently enjoyed a near-absolute majority.


ORLY ?

My statement stands.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_political_party_has_majority_in_both_houses_o f_Congress_in_2008

Q-What political party has majority in both houses of Congress in 2008?

A- Democrats maintain a majority of both the US Senate and House of Representatives, and have since the election of 2006.

MomCares
09-07-2008, 01:14 AM
By working majority I meant the ability to override a Presidential Veto.

Maybe I chose the wrong term, but hopefully you get my point.


MomCares

p.s. Also -- the origins of our current economic crisis pre-date 2006...

Michael
09-07-2008, 02:16 PM
Hopefully, the Democrats will win a veto proof majority in both houses. I am usually wary to one party controlling the white house and congress, but we need to turn this country around. Stay the Bush course in 2008 does not work for me. We have been heading in the wrong direction.

Ramius31
09-07-2008, 02:22 PM
By working majority I meant the ability to override a Presidential Veto.

Maybe I chose the wrong term, but hopefully you get my point.


MomCares

p.s. Also -- the origins of our current economic crisis pre-date 2006...

Congressional authority to write legislation and spending bills has nothing to do with a Presidential Veto. If the Dems don't want to spend the money, they simply don't fund it, bringing the government to a halt. Been done before, but this do-nothing Congress is perfectly content to do just that, nothing.

Mousehound
09-07-2008, 02:48 PM
I don't get it. I grew up hearing how rich and strong America was. Since living on the other side of the big pond, I see that America has it's fingers in just about every pie on the planet, but at home everything has turned to trash. You can't be a big strong country while letting your basis rot away. I mean, even big business must realize that in the end they are playing a losing game gutting the country like they are doing. Maybe I just live too sheltered a life.

dyrt
09-07-2008, 06:31 PM
I don't get it. I grew up hearing how rich and strong America was. Since living on the other side of the big pond, I see that America has it's fingers in just about every pie on the planet, but at home everything has turned to trash. You can't be a big strong country while letting your basis rot away. I mean, even big business must realize that in the end they are playing a losing game gutting the country like they are doing. Maybe I just live too sheltered a life.Maybe you should not believe the moans of the doomers as being reality. It is just part of our political process.

In my area, everyone is complaining about all the building of roads and bridges. There are houses and new schools going up all over the place too.

Yes, there are some areas in the country that are not doing well but that is always the case. We are in a constant state of destruction and renewal.

MomCares
09-07-2008, 07:14 PM
It's nice to feel good, but IMHO anyone who doesn't recognize that the US infrastructure is in really bad shape (including our financial infrastructure) is simply not paying attention to reality, and/or doesn't get out into the bigger world much.


MomCares