Flu vaccine offers only 'moderate protection'

[kanuck57]

Flu vaccine offers only 'moderate protection'
Oct 26, 2011

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/...ctiveness.html

..........researchers reviewed studies of lab tests for flu virus instead of a faster method of looking for an increase in flu antibodies which tends to overestimate vaccine effectiveness.

[Kassy]

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...295-X/fulltext

[Sonny]

There are people who would rather you come down with the flu
than you get a flu vaccine. Of this I have no doubt.


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[CanadaSue]

Moderate beats none & for many, it's literally a life saver.

[Kassy]

The most interesting groups to test , the very young and the very old, are not likely to get included in double blind studies.

Anyway it should be about time to look at the next generation of vaccines , vaccines that target less changeable parts of influenza.

Vaccines that work on a part of Ha which is shared across different H flu strains (H1 and H3), there's another approach looking at the M gene and another very broad spectrum antiviral which is so recent it should be on page 1 or 2 of this forum, unless it's the one that got moved to medical news...

[Kassy]

Originally Posted by Kassy

and another very broad spectrum antiviral which is so recent it should be on page 1 or 2 of this forum, unless it's the one that got moved to medical news...

Here it is:
http://thisbluemarble.com/showthread.php?t=39278

[kanuck57]

Originally Posted by Kassy

The most interesting groups to test , the very young and the very old, are not likely to get included in double blind studies.

Vaccines are no longer tested by the double-blind, placebo controlled investigation. A placebo-controlled study is determined by comparing a vaccine to a neutral substance, such as sugar.
Vaccines are now compared to a previous similar vaccine and if the new vaccine causes similar adverse reactions ad the undesirable side-effects, it is named as safe as placebo.

Is 6 weeks a proper length of time to test a vaccine before it is released for use in the population. What are the longer term cumulative effects of the metals/chemicals?

Try and find a vaccine that was tested with the medical standard double-blind placebo controlled investigation, a neutral substance.

When will these vaccine corporation start to produce CLEAN vaccines instead of the old DIRTY toxic vaccines............or would that cut into corporate profits!!!

Challenging the Vaccination Dogma
http://thisbluemarble.com/showthread...ighlight=dogma

[Kassy]

Sugar might be a proper placebo.

Anyway i don't agree with the clean/'dirty toxic' vaccine stuff.

The current vaccine is based on correctly predicting the A/H1, A/H3 and B/Ha components of the vaccine and we get it wrong.

The current vaccine might have limited use but it is a continuing pressure.

For all vaccines find the disease rates before the vaccines were introduced & the effects the disease had before you worry about dirty vaccines.