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Old 11-24-2008, 01:54 AM   #1
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Arrow Citigroup Gets Government Guarantees on $306 Billion of Assets



Citigroup Inc. will have more than $300 billion of troubled mortgages and other assets guaranteed by the U.S. government under a federal plan to stabilize the lender after its stock fell 60 percent last week.

Citigroup also will get a $20 billion cash infusion from the Treasury Department, adding to the $25 billion the bank received last month under the Troubled Asset Relief Program. In return for the cash and guarantees, the government will get $27 billion of preferred shares paying an 8 percent dividend.

The Treasury, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said in a joint statement that the move aims to bolster financial-market stability and restore economic growth. The decision came after New York-based Citigroup’s tumbling share price sparked concern that nervous depositors might pull their money and destabilize the company, which has $2 trillion of assets and operations in more than 100 countries.

“It really was a must-do thing,” said Nader Naeimi, a Sydney-based strategist at AMP Capital Investors, which manages about $85 billion. “If they’d let Citigroup go, that would’ve been disastrous.”

Chief Executive Officer Vikram Pandit, 51, told employees on a Nov. 21 conference call that he doesn’t plan to break up the company. He and Chief Financial Officer Gary Crittenden said they don’t expect to sell the Smith Barney brokerage unit, two people who listened to the call said at the time.

Citigroup’s board, led by Chairman Win Bischoff and independent director Richard Parsons, met the same day to discuss the bank’s options.

Citigroup issued a statement last week saying the company has “a very strong capital and liquidity position and a unique global franchise.”
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To contact the reporters on this story: Bradley Keoun in New York at bkeoun@bloomberg.net; Alison Vekshin in Washington at o avekshin@bloomberg.net; Christine Harper in New York at charper@bloomberg.net.
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:57 AM   #2
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Citigroup shares up 30% in German trading to 4.20Euros




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Old 11-24-2008, 08:57 AM   #3
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What's good for the goose (letting a badly run business fail in the REAL economy) should be good for the gander (the banking world). Alas Citi, which I called a "Dead Man Walking" back when they were attempting to take over Wachovia, has finally fessed up to something that any intelligent observer on the outside has know for years ... they have been cooking their books and hiding MASSIVE losses ever since Sandy, "Mr Accounting Gimics", Weil got control.

This take over should clear the air for most people, if they bother to open their eyes, that there is a clear bias among the policy makers for the financial sector of the economy versus the producing sector of the economy. It would have been easy to protect the depositors of Citi while getting rid of the rotten carcus.

The fact that they are willing to spend the money to keep the entity alive when there are lots of other more viable entities in the wings that can do it's economic function is a pure example of the political power that Wall Street/Bankers have obtained over Washington DC and the economy. The rules of Capitalism no longer apply to them ... only the rules of grabbing whatever you can from the public AND the government. Socialism for the rich in the extreme.

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Old 11-24-2008, 02:46 PM   #4
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What's good for the goose (letting a badly run business fail in the REAL economy) should be good for the gander (the banking world).
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Let them all fail.

Mark my words, business will just factor the government coming to the rescue the next time they are deciding to do something risky financially.
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Mark my words, business will just factor the government coming to the rescue the next time they are deciding to do something risky financially.
Moral hazard got thrown out with the bath water.
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Every dime of that 300 billion "guarantee" will be used, too. May as well just write the check now.
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