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08-28-2009, 12:58 PM
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RNC: Republicans will be denied healthcare
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_ro...rnc/index.html
RNC: Republicans will be denied healthcare
Apparently the death panels myth wasn't enough for the Republican National Committee. They're apparently trying to start a whole new one -- now, it won't just be old people who will be refused care under Democratic healthcare plans, but all Republicans.
The RNC sent out a fundraising mailer recently. Couched as a survey, it contained one question that reads, "It has been suggested that the government could use voter registration to determine a person's political affiliation, prompting fears that GOP voters might be discriminated against for medical treatment in a Democrat-imposed health care rationing system. Does this possibly concern you?"
This would be laughable if it weren't so shameless, so irresponsible and so dirty.
But the RNC got caught out by one couple in Washington State who received the mailing and went to their local paper with it. It'd be nice to think that, post-exposure, the RNC would show some sort of remorse and -- just maybe -- stop spreading this kind of thing. But given the attitude of RNC Chair Michael Steele in his interview with NPR Thursday morning, that seems very unlikely.
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08-28-2009, 06:01 PM
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I used to get unbiased surveys like that all the time, from both sides.
Of course, we all know what's really going to happen. After his brain is transplanted into a younger body (ironically, by a team of British, Canadian, and French doctors), Dick Cheney is elected president, and immediately seizes control of the Death Panels, which go through the voter registration lists, all Democratic voters are systematically denied treatment, and they are soon dead of things such as complications of hangnails.
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08-28-2009, 07:17 PM
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"It has been suggested that the government could use voter registration to determine a person's political affiliation, prompting fears that GOP voters might be discriminated against for medical treatment in a Democrat-imposed health care rationing system. Does this possibly concern you?"
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I suppose it was laughable in Venezuela until Chavez took over. Without due process he has routinely seized the assets, harassed and jailed his political opponents. Their property is given to his political friends. This includes access to medical care. This is standard behavior when socialists take over.
It really seems a farfetched possibility for the USA though. I guess it depends how much power the US marxists manage to accrue. I don't think that they will succeed but it does not seem too much of a stretch to imagine government appointed committees making healthcare decisions on political basis. After all, their jobs will be by appointment and they will serve the paymasters. BTW, I think if government makes the health decisions then politics will be an influence no matter who is in charge, Republican or Democrat.
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08-28-2009, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dyrt
I suppose it was laughable in Venezuela until Chavez took over. Without due process he has routinely seized the assets, harassed and jailed his political opponents. Their property is given to his political friends. This includes access to medical care. This is standard behavior when socialists take over.
It really seems a farfetched possibility for the USA though. I guess it depends how much power the US marxists manage to accrue. I don't think that they will succeed but it does not seem too much of a stretch to imagine government appointed committees making healthcare decisions on political basis. After all, their jobs will be by appointment and they will serve the paymasters. BTW, I think if government makes the health decisions then politics will be an influence no matter who is in charge, Republican or Democrat.
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 No idea so nutty the Right wing Obama haters will not run with it!
I just won $10 on a bet that this idea would be seriously advanced before the end of the thread! The other person thought I was being overly "negative"  Thanks, Dyrt! I can always count on you!
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08-29-2009, 01:17 AM
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You left out...
The Boogeyman is sleeping peacefully under all our beds right now, and only the passing of a healthcare bill can wake him, as he will be put in charge of it!
Then...he will kill us all!
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08-29-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fiddlerdave
 No idea so nutty the Right wing Obama haters will not run with it!
I just won $10 on a bet that this idea would be seriously advanced before the end of the thread! The other person thought I was being overly "negative"  Thanks, Dyrt! I can always count on you!
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And you can always be counted on for worthless snark, handwaving and ignorance. You can not deny that Chavez or Castro have used their government goons to seize and isolate their political enemies. The idea you find so nutty is one that socialists and others, worldwide, use to hang on to power. So the question is, can it happen here?
If fact, similar things have happened. America haters love to point out the abuses of past US governments when one side uses government power to enforce ideology. The politicalization of government function is a well known trend. There is no reason to think that if health care decisions are made by government appointed committees then politics will be an influence.
BTW, in your rush to make your propaganda point of ridicule, you overlooked my statement that politicalization will happen no matter which party is in power.
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08-30-2009, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dyrt
And you can always be counted on for worthless snark, handwaving and ignorance. You can not deny that Chavez or Castro have used their government goons to seize and isolate their political enemies. The idea you find so nutty is one that socialists and others, worldwide, use to hang on to power. So the question is, can it happen here?
If fact, similar things have happened. America haters love to point out the abuses of past US governments when one side uses government power to enforce ideology. The politicalization of government function is a well known trend. There is no reason to think that if health care decisions are made by government appointed committees then politics will be an influence.
BTW, in your rush to make your propaganda point of ridicule, you overlooked my statement that politicalization will happen no matter which party is in power.
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I agree government can abuse programs of all kinds to political ends, and I am aghast as all these so-called "Freedom Lovers" are happy to not only bare their butts to prove the have no bombs (that can be justified) but to show an ID and now give birthdate etc. in order to fly!
But it is going to be kind of rough to use a national program based on supplying at least minimal healthcare for ALL with the ability to privately purchase insurance as a way to selectively and punitively deny healthcare to Republicans.  It actually in a entirely irrational suggestion.
What on earth could be the rationale for denying coverage to a political group in a national plan to cover EVERYONE? The politicization would be public, obvious, and quite provable. OTOH, if desired, the Obama Regine could prohibit you from flying and you would never be able to prove why or who suggested it. Or that you are on the list! Why don't the "Patriots" wake up to the REAL dangers?
Last edited by Fiddlerdave; 08-30-2009 at 04:42 PM.
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