Duggar's 19th child born premature

[Fartacus]

Michelle Duggar Has Premature Girl in Emergency C Section


Michelle Duggar of TLC's '18 Kids and Counting' Gave Birth to Preemie Girl Josie Brooklyn
By LUCHINA FISHER and LAUREN COX
Dec. 11, 2009



Michelle Duggar, star of the TLC reality show "18 Kids and Counting" has given birth to her 19th child in an emergency C-section.




Reality TV mom Michelle Duggar has given birth to a premature girl.New baby Josie Brooklyn, born Thursday evening, weighs 1 pound 6 ounces and is in stable condition at the neonatal intensive care unit at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, TLC reports.

TLC reports "Michelle is resting comfortably" while Josie Brooklyn stays at the neonatal intensive care unit, and that "the family is grateful for all the prayers and well wishes during their recovery."

Duggar's baby was not due until March, but TLC is reporting that Duggar went into the hospital early suffering pain from a gallstone. People magazine reported Monday that Duggar had been airlifted to a hospital in Little Rock because her gallbladder problems were causing contractions.

Only 6 percent of babies are born so early. Most preemies make it the 33rd week of pregnancy and while most premature babies are at risk for health problems, risk for complications increases the earlier a baby is born, according to the March of Dimes.

Their organs are less developed in babies before 32 weeks gestation, but advances in obstetrics and neonatology have improved the chances of survival for babies as small as Josie Brooklyn.

Josie Brooklyn was born at 25 weeks and, according to a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in June, babies born at 25 weeks who receive aggressive treatment through intensive care have an 82 percent chance of survival.

For now, Duggar's husband, Jim Bob, and 18 children will have to get along without Michelle and Josie Brooklyn.




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[flourbug]

Ooooh, not good for mom or baby.

[rb.]

That's sad. My best friend was told after her fourth (and last) pregnancy that if she carried anymore babies it would have to be in a sling. How this woman could carry even the first 18 astounds me.

I have to wonder about what problems may arise from being born at 25 weeks. Survival is one thing, long term health is a whole nuther ball of wax.

[Potemkin]

Horse sh*t.

[Arianwen]

...freaks.

[CanadaSue]

Unfortunately, she was beating the odds for healthy pregnancies & problem free labour/deliveries. The house just called.

At this age of prematurity, the potential for long term medical problems - assuming survival of the little girl - are pretty high.

I certainly couldn't/wouldn't EVER consider having that many children & don't share their faith based approach to pregnancy timing but she clearly loves her kids & adores her babies.

This has got to be a gut wrenching time for the entire family & my heart goes to them & anyone in their shoes tonight. Going to be touch & go on literally an hourly basis for quite some time for little Josie.

[Arianwen]

I disagree. If you've ever had the misfortune of watching their show, they force each kid to become the guardian of the kid below it agewise. The kids have no choice in the matter. This means SMALL kids are responsible for even smaller kids. So, long story short, these God bothering breeders don't look after their own kids (who the hell could look after 19 children?!) they deprive their litter the opportunity at anything approaching a normal childhood, it's akin to slavery. Of course, the kids are "home schooled" to avoid any contamination by the "unbelievers." Heh.

The Duggars disgust me on multiple levels. this "quiver-full" bullshit is a thinly veiled attempt to outbreed the nonbelievers/heathens etc.

It's a vagina, not a clown car.

[CanadaSue]

They walk their walk - unlike many who spout off with all sorts of nonsense. They're entirely self supporting. How do you think large families in the past managed? The minite they were the least bit useful, young children had chores - including the care of younger siblings.

The kids generally appear well mannered, pleasant & I see no shortage of love or thoughtfulness for one another in that family. They interact with plenty of unbelievers - camera crews, producers & people they meet on their many outings. They rank pretty high on patience, tolerance & understanding of others' foibles.

Certainly not a life I could lead nor would I want to. But it's a freely made choice on their part & they ask nothing of anybody.

[Fartacus]

Originally Posted by Arianwen

I disagree. If you've ever had the misfortune of watching their show, they force each kid to become the guardian of the kid below it agewise. The kids have no choice in the matter. This means SMALL kids are responsible for even smaller kids. So, long story short, these God bothering breeders don't look after their own kids (who the hell could look after 19 children?!) they deprive their litter the opportunity at anything approaching a normal childhood, it's akin to slavery. Of course, the kids are "home schooled" to avoid any contamination by the "unbelievers." Heh.

The Duggars disgust me on multiple levels. this "quiver-full" bullshit is a thinly veiled attempt to outbreed the nonbelievers/heathens etc.

It's a vagina, not a clown car.

My God.


I agree with you 100%.

[free ranger]

Originally Posted by CanadaSue

They walk their walk - unlike many who spout off with all sorts of nonsense. They're entirely self supporting. How do you think large families in the past managed? The minite they were the least bit useful, young children had chores - including the care of younger siblings.

The kids generally appear well mannered, pleasant & I see no shortage of love or thoughtfulness for one another in that family. They interact with plenty of unbelievers - camera crews, producers & people they meet on their many outings. They rank pretty high on patience, tolerance & understanding of others' foibles.

Certainly not a life I could lead nor would I want to. But it's a freely made choice on their part & they ask nothing of anybody.

I agree CS...certainly not a life I would choose, but this is America, and they have the right to choose the number of kids they produce (and since they don't receive any help from the government, I don't care even more).

As far as their religious beliefs, again not mine; TG for freedom of religion.

It sure seems that the Duggger kids are very polite & responsible. I think it is important that ALL family members contribute to the household duties. I have seen where older siblings who help with younger ones gain knowledge and insight, unlike those kids who come from homes where nothing is expected from them, and thus they do not have the opportunity to obtain those skills.

[rb.]

Ari, Fart...you feel they are bad, but my nuclear family parents did better? I doubt it. I sure could use more than one sibling, especially over the past 2 years. Best I can do is one cousin in town, who is an only child, and probably far more messed up than any Duggar kid.

My best friend isn't one of the "quiverfull" believers, she's good Catholic with a good Baptist husband. They've raised six kids...three hers, two his, one theirs. She told me many years ago she feels it's her responsibility to bring several good, upstanding, hard-working, intelligent children into the world, to help balance all the multi-generational welfare babies. I certainly can't fault that view.

The Duggars don't do welfare, and require stuff of their kids. Oh well. How many of us DON'T require enough of our kids, and create the "snowflakes" that Sue has talked about dealing with? How many families 40...50...60 years ago would have approached this size? Is it any different for farm families to have had kid after kid, sometimes to have more hands for a better life?

Sure, there are lots of big families where the kids didn't "get what they needed", but big families have no lock on that...ask me why I'm in counselling.

[Fartacus]

Originally Posted by rb.

Ari, Fart...you feel they are bad, but my nuclear family parents did better? I doubt it. I sure could use more than one sibling, especially over the past 2 years. Best I can do is one cousin in town, who is an only child, and probably far more messed up than any Duggar kid.

My best friend isn't one of the "quiverfull" believers, she's good Catholic with a good Baptist husband. They've raised six kids...three hers, two his, one theirs. She told me many years ago she feels it's her responsibility to bring several good, upstanding, hard-working, intelligent children into the world, to help balance all the multi-generational welfare babies. I certainly can't fault that view.

The Duggars don't do welfare, and require stuff of their kids. Oh well. How many of us DON'T require enough of our kids, and create the "snowflakes" that Sue has talked about dealing with? How many families 40...50...60 years ago would have approached this size? Is it any different for farm families to have had kid after kid, sometimes to have more hands for a better life?

Sure, there are lots of big families where the kids didn't "get what they needed", but big families have no lock on that...ask me why I'm in counselling.

I agree with Ari's points, but perhaps not her vitriol (but we're talking Ari here).

Perhaps I don't see them as "bad," but selfish and irresponsible. There's a big difference between a blended family of 6, like your friends, and a pack of 19. We're getting into crazy cat lady numbers now. Historically, large families like that were necessary because of the agrarian economy and mortality rates, but nowadays it seems almost negligent.

I do agree with Ari that it's not fair to rob a child of his/her childhood because he/her is expected to parent siblings he/she had no choice about. YMMV.

[rb.]

Originally Posted by Fartacus

I We're getting into crazy cat lady numbers now.

I will give you that your comment above is always my first reaction to this family.

[Glockd]

I am the oldest of 8, my great-grandparents had 10. I have 3. Every other year, we have a family reunion centering around the Great Grandparents and the 10 children. Trust me, 200 people at a family reunion is a hell of a lot more fun than 15. All kinds of kids running around, stories being told, mass volleyball games, horseshoes, fishing trips, etc. The Duggars lifestyle is not mine, but I have no doubt that their children will become good parents and they all seem to be great kids. I doubt many would choose to imitate their parents, but I also doubt there will ever be a lack of support in that family.

A medical emergency in a small family takes an enormous toll, but with the Duggars, while I am sure this is painful, it is not likely that the family will fall apart, a child will go hungry or suffer through this alone. As long as they can sustain and support the children, who cares. I have no doubt, had she been barren, they would have adopted just as many.

Also, being the oldest, having younger brothers and sisters, while a pain in the ass at times, also gives you patsies to blame shit on!

[rb.]

Originally Posted by Glockd

A medical emergency in a small family takes an enormous toll

I don't think you have any idea how on the mark you are with that comment, Glockd. When my mother was dying, and we had to take care of my alcoholic father at the same time, I was at my wit's end. I have ONE brother to call on, and if he was not available, or unreachable, I was on my own. That is very, very hard. Not only did I not have the physical help, but I also didn't have the emotional help. And now, at Christmas, we will have only a family of four Christmas. My brother is not leaving his home, has foster kids, so my children, yet again, will have no cousins to play with, aunts and uncles to have dinner with, etc. My father won't come out of the bottle, my mother is dead, and I've lost both my grandmothers in the last year and a half. My kids, despite having two parents and a sibling each, do not get to experience "family" holiday gatherings. It makes me very sad, and wish I came from a larger family.

[Fartacus]

rb,

I'm truly sorry this thread brought up hurt for you.

Would you like it moved to a more private room of the board?

F

[rb.]

Nope, it's cool. Just one of those days.