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Old 03-02-2010, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default Need a job? $2.8b contract to KBR

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Army awards lucrative Iraq support contract to KBR

By KIMBERLY HEFLING and RICHARD LARDNER (AP) – 4 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Defense giant KBR Inc. was awarded a contract potentially worth $2.8 billion for support work in Iraq as U.S. forces continue to leave the country, military authorities said Tuesday.

KBR was notified of the award Friday, a day after the company told shareholders it lost about $25 million in award fees because of flawed electrical work in Iraq.

The Houston-based company was charged with maintaining the barracks where Staff Sgt. Ryan Maseth of Pittsburgh, a 24-year-old Green Beret, was electrocuted in 2008 while showering. The company has denied wrongdoing, and investigators said in August there was "insufficient evidence to prove or disprove" that anyone was criminally culpable in Maseth's death.

The uproar over his death triggered a review of 17 other electrocution deaths in Iraq and widespread inspections and repairs of electrical work in Iraq, much of it performed by KBR.

Dan Carlson, a spokesman for the Army Sustainment Command in Rock Island, Ill., said the new contract is for one year, with an option for four more. KBR will handle logistics support, transportation mission, and postal operations.

KBR has long been the military's largest support contractor in Iraq, providing troops with everything from mail and laundry to housing and meals. The new award was made through a revamped contract structure intended to foster competition among companies.

"The award demonstrates that the government recognizes KBR's ability and expertise in delivering high quality service in challenging contingency environments," KBR said in a statement.

Charles Tiefer, a professor of government contracting at the University of Baltimore Law School and a vocal critic of KBR, called the award an "outrage" because of the company's record in Iraq.

"Giving KBR this contract while denying them award fees for their enormous problem of accidentally electrocuting soldiers amounts to rapping them on the knuckles on one hand while handing them a multibillion dollar deal in the other," said Tiefer, who is also a member of the independent Commission on Wartime Contracting.

Last October, the Defense Contract Audit Agency criticized KBR for having more employees in Iraq than were necessary. The excess, the agency said, was unnecessarily costing U.S. taxpayers.

KBR said it had reduced the size of its work force in Iraq consistent with guidance from U.S. military commanders. The company also fired back at the audit agency for its "heavy-handed intrusion" into the military's complex logistics process.

Carlson said Army Sustainment Command is working closely with commanders in Iraq to make sure the contractor work force is properly sized to support drawdown operations in Iraq.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:55 PM   #2
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They outsource to Indians, Pakistanis and others in the gulf.

You don't think they would actually give jobs to Americans do you ?
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They outsource to Indians, Pakistanis and others in the gulf.

You don't think they would actually give jobs to Americans do you ?
I know a man who is on his 2nd contract with them and he is an American. His GF was working for them when they met. Another young man from the US was working for them for a while also.

They do hire Americans but some Americans do not want to work in a war zone so they hire people that will even if they are from another country.
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I know a man who is on his 2nd contract with them and he is an American. His GF was working for them when they met. Another young man from the US was working for them for a while also.

They do hire Americans but some Americans do not want to work in a war zone so they hire people that will even if they are from another country.
All of the bulk of the grunt work goes to sub-contractors.

So yes, there are Americans there, but not the bulk of the contracted workforce.
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I distinctly remember calling KBR to get my tent's AC fixed in Kandahar, and two American guys came over to fix it...
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They outsource to Indians, Pakistanis and others in the gulf.

You don't think they would actually give jobs to Americans do you ?
As a matter of fact they do.

I know several KBR guys who work here and in country.

Most of the management, professionals and skilled trades are Americans. It makes it easier to complete background checks to work with the military. There are some people from the UK and Australia in there.

Some of the laborer groups are locals, i.e. Iraqi. No Indians, Pakistanis or Bangladeshis working on those government contracts.
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You don't think they would actually give jobs to Americans do you ?
Sad but it was my second thought.

My first was: do they hire over 50 yr old males? Maybe I can let you all know. Can't hurt to try, right Pote?
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Sad but it was my second thought.

My first was: do they hire over 50 yr old males? Maybe I can let you all know. Can't hurt to try, right Pote?

Yes they do. Several of the people I mentioned are over 50.

To be honest, it is tough for a lot of people.

Not that the work is terribly hard but the way it works.

No booze, no porn, not much internet, phone, etc. Some people can't stand the separation.

The pay is good and that is the problem. It is hard to earn the +100k and then go back to your regular pay.

It is working on a government contract. Lot of chickensh*t rules, way of doing things, etc. A lot of the skilled craftsmen/women, have a problem with doing it the "government way" when their skills know there is a better way.
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