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Old 08-10-2011, 04:35 PM   #1
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Arrow Michigan Dumps 30,000 College Students From Food Stamps Program, Saves $75M

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1UcdJ6V1c
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:38 AM   #2
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Careful - they might riot like in England.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:50 PM   #3
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Thats a great way to encourage educated people to stay in Michigan, be productive taxpayers, and maybe someday open new businesses. Our freakin brilliant politicians at work. Save a little money now, screw the future. The chickenshitz wanna save some money, stop all the "party stores" from trading cards for cash, but that would be scarey and give the police department something to do./sarcasm off
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Occupant - I think the point is that if they are in college, they should have no trouble working part-time to pay for things. Like most of my friends, I had to work my way through school, and never held out a hand for food stamps. At least in theory, food stamps are supposed to be a temporary thing for families (not single adults in their prime working years) to get over the hump. Instead, we now have 50 million plus on them, and the number just keeps increasing.
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Some people still refuse to get that the entitlement gravy train is permanently derailed, and that there is no money left. Blinders may block out one's view of reality, but they do not change reality.
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:49 PM   #6
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Giving university students the food stamps is educational malpractice in my view. It undermines the whole idea of creating the next generation of smart productive citizens. Instead, the state was training welfare dependent voters for the socialists.
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...But guys, college and the cost of living is much more expensive now than it was when you were going there. In those days there were entry level retail and restaurant jobs to be had. There are NO jobs here for college kids. Retail is dead in Michigan and most restaurant jobs are taken by adults and foreigners. I had such trouble finding a job because this stupid state gives the employer $5k for each welfare mama they put to work. I know lots of college kids that can't wait to get the heck outta here.They live 5 to an apartment or flat and in some pretty seedy neighborhoods. Michigans future is getting worse by the day it seems, so retaining any educated people is a win-win in my eyes.
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What part of broke don't you understand?
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I know lots of college kids that can't wait to get the heck outta here.
Occupant - to state the obvious, there are 49 other states and ALL of them are in better shape than Michigan. The government structure in place in MI has made the place unsustainable. When combined with the over-unionization and urban decay, Michigan is a place that people just want to flee. If the crappy cities and infrastructure aren't enough, you can add in the fact that they have lengthy winters.

That students are taking food stamps in Michigan is pretty pathetic to begin with. I'm glad that they cut them off. Probably the best lesson they'll learn of their college year (sans welfare) is that there is no free lunch. That's TANSTAAFL for you.
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One way around this is to require every student to have a meal plan and allow it to be financed into student loans or covered by scholarships/grants.
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...But guys, college and the cost of living is much more expensive now than it was when you were going there. In those days there were entry level retail and restaurant jobs to be had. There are NO jobs here for college kids. Retail is dead in Michigan and most restaurant jobs are taken by adults and foreigners. I had such trouble finding a job because this stupid state gives the employer $5k for each welfare mama they put to work. I know lots of college kids that can't wait to get the heck outta here.They live 5 to an apartment or flat and in some pretty seedy neighborhoods. Michigans future is getting worse by the day it seems, so retaining any educated people is a win-win in my eyes.
If Michigan has no jobs for students and the parents of 30,000 students can't afford noodles for their kids then what is the point of trying to keep the students in the state. So they can become educated "welfare mama(s)?"

Anyway, this whole discussion is based on the assumption that 30,000 students were using their food stamps for survival food.
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Anyway, this whole discussion is based on the assumption that 30,000 students were using their food stamps for survival food.
Exactly. We all know better. And for crissakes why don't they get jobs if they are hurting so much? This idea that you can just sit back and coast through college on education loans is getting out of hand. Med school and (at least for the first year) law school are different. But, I assume they are talking about undergrads here.
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It's all about entitlement.

Saw this link on a prepper style board and thought I'd share:
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When welfare reform was passed and a two-year limit was placed on welfare bennies, people said that single moms and children would be starving in the streets. What actually happened is that a whole lot of people went out and got jobs, some of them for the first time in their lives. There were no hordes of starving, dying people. Of course, unlike the scenario above, these people knew the cutoff of money was coming two years in advance.
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