Indoctrination Begins

[Dreamweaver]

15 page spread to 2008 edition 8th grade literature book.


Real Debate Wisconsin reported:

My 8th grade son is in an advanced English class at a public middle school here in Racine, Wisconsin. I just found out that my son's new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin - McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama.

I was shocked - No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush - Just Barack Obama. I'm wondering how it is that Obama's story gets put into an 8th grade literature book? It would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his "Life of Service". Honestly, what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background! Front & center is an www.obama2004.com sign.

Now I understand that many teachers are liberals, but does the school have the right to shove Obama down our kid's throats? All the kids grouped together and read the story. After that, they discussed it... I guess it appears that Obama is planning ahead. If he doesn't get his coveted Presidency, Obama is going to make sure, that the younger generations know all about him, and his "life of service".

If you would like to see the 15 page story on Obama, it appears that you can order this book online. There is a note in the book that says, For more on Barack Obama, visit the Literature Center at www.ClassZone.com The book is: Wisconsin - 8th grade - McDougal Littell Literature - copyright 2008. The Obama story starts on page 830. I hope you will take the time to look at this book. I'm really angry about this - In fact, I would love to rip the pages right out of this book.

[Ramius31]

I doubt that any of the liberals around here will find a problem with this whatsoever. Change the subject matter to Sarah Palin and we would have 500 threads filled with sexism, name calling, racial epitaphs and cries of indoctrinating the children. But hey, so long as The One is involved, there are no boundaries.

[rryan]

One more reason "public" education should be done away with

[Renegade]

Hat to Lib....

[A.T. Hagan]

Originally Posted by Dreamweaver

15 page spread to 2008 edition 8th grade literature book.


Real Debate Wisconsin reported:

My 8th grade son is in an advanced English class at a public middle school here in Racine, Wisconsin. I just found out that my son's new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin - McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama.

I was shocked - No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush - Just Barack Obama. I'm wondering how it is that Obama's story gets put into an 8th grade literature book? It would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his "Life of Service". Honestly, what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background! Front & center is an www.obama2004.com sign.

Now I understand that many teachers are liberals, but does the school have the right to shove Obama down our kid's throats? All the kids grouped together and read the story. After that, they discussed it... I guess it appears that Obama is planning ahead. If he doesn't get his coveted Presidency, Obama is going to make sure, that the younger generations know all about him, and his "life of service".

If you would like to see the 15 page story on Obama, it appears that you can order this book online. There is a note in the book that says, For more on Barack Obama, visit the Literature Center at www.ClassZone.com The book is: Wisconsin - 8th grade - McDougal Littell Literature - copyright 2008. The Obama story starts on page 830. I hope you will take the time to look at this book. I'm really angry about this - In fact, I would love to rip the pages right out of this book.

Has this been verified from any other source other than this blog?

.....Alan.

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by A.T. Hagan

Has this been verified from any other source other than this blog?

.....Alan.

they only thing I could find on McDougal Littell Literature's homepage is some 04 convention speeches that it sells as advanced/elective stuff. Course, the book in question probably doesn't have the whole text online so someone in WI will probably have to show it up.

Not that the MSM is going to pick up on it anyway....

[Greta]

Originally Posted by rryan

One more reason "public" education should be done away with

Yeah, why don't all the people with kids just take the responsibility for their own child's education (stop complaining), keep them at home and home school them if they don't like the public school system.

[BirdGuano]

Originally Posted by Greta

Yeah, why don't all the people with kids just take the responsibility for their own child's education (stop complaining), keep them at home and home school them if they don't like the public school system.

Maybe because we also pay for the public school bullshit on top of private
school tuition ?

[Greta]

Originally Posted by BirdGuano

Maybe because we also pay for the public school bullshit on top of private
school tuition ?

OK...how about taking up your complaints with the school teachers, principals, and school boards if you don't like something written about Obama in the school textbooks.

[BirdGuano]

Originally Posted by Greta

OK...how about taking up your complaints with the school teachers, principals, and school boards if you don't like something written about Obama in the school textbooks.

It's California and we have the CTA



Who release this type of press release:
http://www.cta.org/media/newsroom/re...20080609_1.htm

[Greta]

Originally Posted by BirdGuano

It's California and we have the CTA



Who release this type of press release:
http://www.cta.org/media/newsroom/re...20080609_1.htm

Then take your complaint to the CTA.

[rryan]

Originally Posted by Greta

Yeah, why don't all the people with kids just take the responsibility for their own child's education (stop complaining), keep them at home and home school them if they don't like the public school system.

Why don't people use private schools, church schools or home school?

Let them keep their school taxes and make their own choices.

[BirdGuano]

Originally Posted by rryan

Why don't people use private schools, church schools or home school?

Let them keep their school taxes and make their own choices.

I do use a private school. I pay for it out of my own pocket.

My taxes also go to support the public school system which is broken beyond repair. On top of what I pay for a private school (non-religious I might add).

I wish I did have a choice to use my tax money for a school of my choice, but the public school industrial-education complex would implode because of a flight to quality if that were allowed to happen.

[Ramius31]

Originally Posted by rryan

Why don't people use private schools, church schools or home school?

Let them keep their school taxes and make their own choices.

This was a hot topic issue a decade ago. It was decided by TPTB that it would lower revenue for public schools or be unfair to the poor.

[BirdGuano]

Originally Posted by Greta

Then take your complaint to the CTA.

Who answers to no one but their own members, whom are funded by taxpayer education tax dollars in the form of salaries and grants.

How naive.

[Greta]

Originally Posted by BirdGuano

Who answers to no one but their own members, whom are funded by taxpayer education tax dollars in the form of salaries and grants.

How naive.

I think that I lost track. What exactly are you complaining about?

[Fiddlerdave]

Originally Posted by A.T. Hagan

Has this been verified from any other source other than this blog?

.....Alan.

As near as I can tell, its bogus. The supposed reference to the website for the book has nothing, no one else has anything.

However, in the real world, this book was in likely in galleys probably before Obama was more than wonderment for a possible campaigner for the nomination, with great concern because 'there's no way he could win".

How is this "shoving Obama down throats" (I sense some Freudian issues in this woman's "concerns")? If students were going to study campaigns, his past ones (the only ones that this book could contain) are brilliant. Why would you study the others? Business as usual politics from the son of a president, the wife of a president, a previous candidate who lost? All would be considered the normal likely winners, just as the usual candidates in Illinois politics when Obama first ran. The first anything almost always has to be brilliant, and the fact that he is ahead in the polls is quite an accomplishment regardles of outcome. Obama will be in the history books alot, right after the "The Bush Depression Years", something that will be most distastefully shoved down our throats for a decade.

[BirdGuano]

Originally Posted by Greta

I think that I lost track. What exactly are you complaining about?

I think it was naive posters that waste my time.

Ya, that's it.

[Greta]

Originally Posted by BirdGuano

I think it was naive posters that waste my time.

Ya, that's it.

OK...I see this is the thread to just bitch about stuff.

[A.T. Hagan]

Originally Posted by Fiddlerdave

If students were going to study campaigns, his past ones (the only ones that this book could contain) are brilliant. Why would you study the others? Business as usual politics from the son of a president, the wife of a president, a previous candidate who lost? All would be considered the normal likely winners, just as the usual candidates in Illinois politics when Obama first ran. The first anything almost always has to be brilliant, and the fact that he is ahead in the polls is quite an accomplishment regardles of outcome. Obama will be in the history books alot, right after the "The Bush Depression Years", something that will be most distastefully shoved down our throats for a decade.

On that only time will tell. I find it equally as likely that he'll go down as the Herbert Hoover of the early twenty first century, brilliantly run campaign or no.

.....Alan.

[Valdez]

If one checks the website one would find the book in question is an anthology of american writers and commentators. Among the sixty or so authors and talking heads included are Ray Bradbury, Daniel Keyes (Flowers for Algernon, one of my alltime favorites) Fredrick Douglas, Isaac Asimov and the list goes on. It appears the editor included a excerpt from Dreams from my Father by one Barrak Obama. MY GOD! Obviously a plot, 15 pages from a book by one of the most successful afro-american politicians of the new century. Writings by an black man included in a literary anthology. Maybe we should burn the book.

[rc]

The image shown above purports to be an excerpt of a speech "by" Obama. By straining my eyes, the first words are, "on behalf of the great State of Illinois".

I don't see anything particularly wrong about including this in an anthology.

As a yellow dog republican, all I have to say is, "yawn".

[Dreamweaver]

In my rush this morning before leaving for work I saw this on another site and cut & pasted it here. I immediately thought the worse. I neglected to look closely at what I was posting. (isn't the first time). After going and looking at the book this evening, I see now what it really is and apologize for starting this mess. The book in question is an English book. The article in question is a speech Obama gave during the 2004 National convention. It is most likely used as part of a lesson on how to write a good speech. Nothing sinister here. Again sorry to all for being part of a misrepresentation.

[SarahS]

Hmm, that's different, isn't it?