| Military Technology The technology of death and destruction keeps us safe, while at the same time it is a threat to the human race itself. The fruit of military research frequently becomes the consumer products and safety equipment of tomorrow. Advances in this field affect us all. |
 |
02-24-2012, 09:14 PM
|
#1
|
|
Pirate Penguin
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 731
Thanks: 31
Thanked 53 Times in 40 Posts
|
New Bomber Program 'Underway' But Cloaked in Secrecy
__________________
"I hope life isn’t a joke, because I don’t get it."
"Homework is killing trees, stop the madness !"
|
|
|
|
02-24-2012, 10:18 PM
|
#2
|
|
Dismember
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,164
Thanks: 171
Thanked 389 Times in 325 Posts
|
This should go in Military Technology.
I have been following the new bomber program for a while now with great interest. Our current fleet cannot last forever, and the number of B-2s is quite small.
__________________
* I have the right to live, thus I have the right to defend my life from attackers who would take it from me.
* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
|
|
|
|
|
02-24-2012, 11:34 PM
|
#3
|
|
Part Time Good Guy
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Marblemount, Washington
Posts: 857
Thanks: 1
Thanked 66 Times in 43 Posts
|
Not to mention, if I recall correctly, the supersonic B-1 was downgraded to become the slower and less capable B1-B.
We've been a world leader in military technology for so long that we've forgotten what it's like to play second fiddle. I think we may be about to learn. We certainly can't just sit and coast forever.
__________________
America has ten times too many police, a hundred times too many citizens unwilling to take responsibility for their own defense and the consequences of their own actions, a thousand times too many politicians who wrongly believe they have the right to tell others how to live their lives, and a million times too many illegal aliens.
|
|
|
|
|
02-25-2012, 12:56 AM
|
#4
|
|
Dismember
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,164
Thanks: 171
Thanked 389 Times in 325 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilton Felix
Not to mention, if I recall correctly, the supersonic B-1 was downgraded to become the slower and less capable B1-B.
|
That is not really correct. The B-1 was originally designed to be a fast high-altitude somewhat stealthy aircraft. Advances in RADAR and SAM technology rendered that mission profile unsurvivable for the B-1A. The Air Force changed the mission profile of the bomber to a low-level terrain-hopping penetration bomber, and in the redesign chose more stealth over more speed.
__________________
* I have the right to live, thus I have the right to defend my life from attackers who would take it from me.
* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
|
|
|
|
|
03-01-2012, 12:52 PM
|
#5
|
|
Part Time Good Guy
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Marblemount, Washington
Posts: 857
Thanks: 1
Thanked 66 Times in 43 Posts
|
Thanks, that makes a bit more sense. I still like supersonic capability, though. 
__________________
America has ten times too many police, a hundred times too many citizens unwilling to take responsibility for their own defense and the consequences of their own actions, a thousand times too many politicians who wrongly believe they have the right to tell others how to live their lives, and a million times too many illegal aliens.
|
|
|
|
|
03-02-2012, 02:16 PM
|
#6
|
|
5.56, faster than 911
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,206
Thanks: 5
Thanked 250 Times in 141 Posts
|
Keep in mind, the B-1B is still capable of Mach 1.25. If we upgrade them to the proposed B-1R profile, they will get new P&W F119 engines and hit about Mach 2.2, albiet with a loss range of about 20%. If we finally get a new tanker, this may not be that big a deal compared to the increased capabilities of the R program. This will include an air-to-air capability.
__________________
  
"When the enemy is in range, so are you!" - Murphy
كافر & Proud
|
|
|
|
03-02-2012, 03:26 PM
|
#7
|
|
Dismember
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,164
Thanks: 171
Thanked 389 Times in 325 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glockd
Keep in mind, the B-1B is still capable of Mach 1.25.
|
The aircraft can only go supersonic at high altitude, and burns hideous amounts of fuel to do so. It is a capability that exists, but is never used operationally.
----------
Quote:
|
If we upgrade them to the proposed B-1R profile, they will get new P&W F119 engines and hit about Mach 2.2, albiet with a loss range of about 20%. If we finally get a new tanker, this may not be that big a deal compared to the increased capabilities of the R program. This will include an air-to-air capability.
|
The B-1R absolutely will not happen with the present administration. It might happen if we get a different person in the Oval Office in January, 2013.
__________________
* I have the right to live, thus I have the right to defend my life from attackers who would take it from me.
* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
|
|
|
|
|
03-03-2012, 12:46 AM
|
#8
|
|
Senior Level 5
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sammamish Plateau, WA
Posts: 5,437
Thanks: 28
Thanked 88 Times in 74 Posts
|
Aurora?
|
|
|
|
|
03-03-2012, 04:45 AM
|
#9
|
|
Dismember
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,164
Thanks: 171
Thanked 389 Times in 325 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sysiphus
Aurora?
|
That is a supposed high altitude transonic recon aircraft program from a couple decades ago. No word on if it really even exists.
__________________
* I have the right to live, thus I have the right to defend my life from attackers who would take it from me.
* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
|
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:05 PM.
|
