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02-19-2012, 07:59 PM
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Foxconn Plans to Lift Pay Sharply at Factories in China
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02-20-2012, 04:10 PM
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A 16% to 25% pay raise for drones! The chinese are going socialist...
Aside, hasn't Foxconn ordered tons of robots for their facilities while also moving some production further inland?
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02-20-2012, 07:51 PM
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A 16% to 25% pay raise for drones! The chinese are going socialist...
Aside, hasn't Foxconn ordered tons of robots for their facilities while also moving some production further inland?
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Replacing low-wage, semi- or unskilled workers with automation is a trend I have been waiting many years to see. If that happens, there is a chance that at least some manufacturing could be moved back to America.
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02-20-2012, 10:20 PM
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Oh wow, an extra bowl of rice a day for the drones... that'll solve the problem... NOT!!!
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02-20-2012, 10:32 PM
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Oh wow, an extra bowl of rice a day for the drones... that'll solve the problem... NOT!!!
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If it were the one and only pay raise they will ever receive, you would have a point. Obviously, it is not. The Chinese workers have not just been demanding an end to harsh and unsafe working conditions, low pay, no bennies, workers getting screwed out of the bulk of their wages when factories go belly-up, and corrupt government officials protecting corrupt factory managers and owners. They have been protesting, even rioting. It has been spreading like wildfire. This pay raise in what is by far the largest and most prestigious electronics assembly company in China is the beginning of a trend. The village that rose up against a huge land grab of their farmland, kicked out Chinese government officials, barricaded the roads leading into the village, and successfully fought off the police is also part of the trend. That trend will change the face of Chinese society going forward. This is the beginning of the end of China's sweat shop economy and corrupt cleptocracy. The 'little people' have had enough, and will no longer tolerate the status quo.
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02-26-2012, 10:40 PM
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Audacious.
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Foxconn's robots will replace roughly half the firm's 1.2 million workers in China. ...
The Foxconn program is the most ambitious roll-out of robots ever tried. No one has gone from 10,000 robots to 1 million in such a short period of time.
Even that understates the sheer scale of Foxconn's move.
... only about 1 million industrial robots are now in use around the world. So, Foxconn alone will double the number as it works to automate its factories.
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http://moneymorning.com/2012/02/22/a...t-nasdaq-irbt/
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02-27-2012, 02:43 AM
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Automation has finally gotten cheaper than cheap human labor. Foxconn is the industry leader in China, and other big manufacturers will follow their lead. That means a sudden big increase in unemployment, and inevitably, serious unrest due to massive endemic unemployment. Bad stuff coming in China. Perhaps it will lead to the fall of the ChiCom government and a democratic government.... or a new, much bigger, and far more powerful North Korea-like dictatorship.
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02-28-2012, 03:29 PM
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Foxconn's robots will replace roughly half the firm's 1.2 million workers in China. ...
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Hence the room for a pay rise...
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02-28-2012, 05:17 PM
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People have been worrying about automation replacing human labor since Ned Ludd was in diapers. So far, not a problem, unless workers are unwilling to be retrained; why would we expect it to change?
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02-28-2012, 05:24 PM
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The problem is, there is already growing unemployment in China. The seasonal workers that come to southeastern China every year from rural northern and western regions have no new jobs to retrain for or relocate to. The result will be social unrest as automation spreads throughout China's industrial complex.
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03-16-2012, 06:00 PM
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03-16-2012, 06:09 PM
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Just to clarify, the OP is not retracted. That was an NYT story sourced directly from Foxconn.
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03-16-2012, 06:15 PM
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Sorry. An Apple Factory Story Retracted
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03-31-2012, 02:36 PM
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