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Old 04-14-2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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Arrow Newt Gingrich: United Nations should adopt treaty giving everyone on earth gun rights

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...nations_s.html
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* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
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I want some of what he's smoking........
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He gets my vote. (metaphorically of course)
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A) I do not want to be subject to the UN... no matter how attractive any law or treaty appears to be.

B) 'Right'? In many countries, the only rights you have are those you firmly grasp - then manage to hold on to.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:19 PM   #5
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It is about time someone stood up and got in the UN's face about a basic human right; the right of self-defense, and the right to have the only suitable tools to exercise that right (see my tagline below).
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* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
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I agree everyone should have the right to bear arms - leaving aside the sticky wicket of letting certifiable fruitbats have firearms & I support that right for the reasons listed in your tag line.

I just don't want that right granted to me by a Third World Employment Agency with its own agenda.
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You would have more luck doing your own heart transplant than getting the UN to go along with that one.
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I agree everyone should have the right to bear arms - leaving aside the sticky wicket of letting certifiable fruitbats have firearms & I support that right for the reasons listed in your tag line.

I just don't want that right granted to me by a Third World Employment Agency with its own agenda.
Treaties between nations do not involve the UN 'granting' anything whatsoever. Newt is calling for a treaty that clearly asserts the inalienable human right of the individual to armed self-defense, and for signatory nations to then reform their national laws to protect that right. The UN would merely be a forum for a discussion of this matter between potential signatory nations. They could come to an agreement on the language of the treaty there. I agree that it is unlikely that would occur, but by merely bringing up the subject, Newt has launched an international discussion about it. He has planted the seed. It is now up to all of us to nurture the seedling and try to help it grow.
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* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
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Did you really expect him to say something different when he was speaking to the NRA? It was pandering at its best.
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:49 AM   #10
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Did you really expect him to say something different when he was speaking to the NRA? It was pandering at its best.
False. He has been a strong advocate of gun rights his whole life. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, was pro-gun control until he got national ambitions. He changed his stance and signed up as an NRA life member six years ago. *That* is pandering.
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* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
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How many world leaders would wet their damn pants at the idea of their citizens having arms? Holy shit, think of how bad the smell would be all of them pissing themselves at once.
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