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Old 11-18-2008, 07:23 AM   #1
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Default How Obama Got Elected

MSM"s abominable job.



Zogby Poll

512 Obama Voters 11/13/08-11/15/08 MOE +/- 4.4 points

97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates

Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions

57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)

81.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

And yet.....

Only 13.7% failed to identify Sarah Palin as the person on which their party spent $150,000 in clothes

Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter

And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!

Only 2.4% got at least 11 correct.

Only .5% got all of them correct. (And we "gave" one answer that was technically not Palin, but actually Tina Fey)
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:39 AM   #2
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For all the effort to get people out to vote, I believe that an uninformed voter is detrimental to the process and would be better not voting.

The 'get out the vote' stuff should be changed to 'research the candidates from NON BIASED sources then vote'. Even if you go to biased websites, there are usually detractors from the other side - and by reading and posting about these issues, you are educating yourself on the pros and cons of the candidates.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:44 AM   #3
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Agreed. Probably more than any other election, this administration will hold the title for "Elected by the Most Ignorant Voters".

Sadly, there are questions about Obama that remain even for those who have tried to find out the truth.....

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Old 11-18-2008, 08:03 AM   #4
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Have you seen the latest - http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...ive_did_n.html

It looks like OB never registered with Selective Service.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:29 AM   #5
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There really should be requirements to vote---at least the ability to pass a simple civics test demonstrating some basic knowledge of the constitution and government.

At minimum.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #6
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It wouldn't matter. Most folks don't care about how the government works or what's needed for the betterment of the country. All they care about is what they are going to get. All they hear are the promises..the verbal "bling" if you will....
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IIRC, in the 60's there was a requirement in some states that voters had to answer basic questions to prove they could read and write, and it was shot down as a civil rights violation.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:41 AM   #8
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Have you seen the latest - http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...ive_did_n.html

It looks like OB never registered with Selective Service.
Interesting website fb... More official paper drama and mystery for him
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:09 PM   #9
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I agree. There should be some sort of literacy exam- as in, basic political knowledge. Maybe our founding fathers weren't so far off of base, when only landowners were allowed to vote (I know, not pc, but they weren't stupid!!). I don't mean that in a "wasp" perspective, just that when you own your home, you tend to be more learned and not so quick to give away the bank (and obviously, that was before they gave a loan to anyone with a pulse).

My idea is, instead of having candidates spend all of their time fundraising, let their party choose their candidates and give free airtime to all candidates, in equal time, or paid for by their party. I'm sure that you could apply this to the primaries, also. It might level the field for third party candidates, or even more. Logistically, it would take a lot of work, but honestly, is the current system better? Just a thought.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:13 PM   #10
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My idea is to have a multiple choice list of 21 questions. You rank if you're pro or against abortion. You say if you're for states rights, or how you feel about oil drilling. My examples are dumb, but you catch my drift. It's a list of questions that identify the differences between the candidates.

The candidate also answer the same ballot and whichever candidate you most closely match is the one your vote goes for.

You could then go down party line IF you knew what the party line is. If you're an uninformed voter, you'd be voting based on what YOU want, not which party you think better represents you.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:33 PM   #11
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I forgot this...

Instead of kill all the lawyers, kill all the lobbyists. To replace them, you can still allow them to state their case to lawmakers, but only at appointed times, in front of congress, with ALL of the cspan cameras rolling. They get to present their cases, and we get a little transparency. Also, some sort of review committee and public discussion, for all bills, and removal of all the cr*p that gets hidden in there. my cousin is a congressional aide, and his attempt at a pithy comment, last week..." washington is run by all of the aides. They write the bills and congress barely reads them. That's how all the perks, for aides, like reimbursement of student loans, are in the bills." If you couldn't tell, he isn't on my side of the aisle!! I know wishful thinking...there is much too much money involved for that to ever happen.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:56 PM   #12
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Interesting website fb... More official paper drama and mystery for him
I agree - very interesting!

Obama signed the document the day after it was postmarked? While it was in the mail? What kind of trick is that? Well, one could argue he wrote down the wrong date . . . . maybe . . .

But then the form's revision date doesn't match with revisions of the form, but does match with a revision done 10 years later?

What kind of fraud is being perpetrated on the American people? If this is fraudulent, then we have even more reason to believe his certificate of live birth could be fraudulent too, especially since there have been experts who attest that it is and he refuses to cooperate with discovery of his vault birth certificate putting whatever legal barriers he can into play.

Too much going on with this man.

So is this fraud on his draft registration and attending legal consequences result in impeachment? Could we have a president on our hands who may be impeached or prevented from sitting?

Oh the tangled webs we weave. The more I see the more I think we may be witnessing a coup in action.

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Therese, google up Obama's signature. I think its on one of his books. Obama has a beautiful, round, flowing style. Compare it with the signature on the selective service form. It is obviously written by a different hand.
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:03 PM   #14
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It wouldn't matter. Most folks don't care about how the government works or what's needed for the betterment of the country. All they care about is what they are going to get. All they hear are the promises..the verbal "bling" if you will....
"verbal 'bling'" a very good way to put it. That is all it really is.

Not all that glitters is gold . . . .


(Where did the word "bling" come from anyway?)

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Therese, google up Obama's signature. I think its on one of his books. Obama has a beautiful, round, flowing style. Compare it with the signature on the selective service form. It is obviously written by a different hand.
So, if he didn't register for the draft, this is a federal crime, right? And if he didn't register, then he would know the registration produced now is fraudulant, which would make him an accessory to the crime of fraud and this would be another federal crime, right? If he is prosecuted and found guilty, can he sit as president? Can a president sit as president from jail?

I don't think so - I think he is thus impeached. Can someone give the run down of what would happen and how if such a scenario transpires?



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The law is explained here: http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm
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The law is explained here: http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm
From the site you gave above:
FEDERAL JOBS
A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.
Given that the President of the United States is the highest level job in the Executive Branch, he would be in eligible to sit as President if he did not register for the draft.

This is getting pretty sticky in more ways than one.

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Please give it a rest Therese, this is a re-run of the birth certificate sleaze.
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I didn't register for the draft either. I declined the offer.

If it's even true that he didn't register, I'd like to hear the reason.
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Being a honky,I'm still concerned as to his affiliation with a known anti-white spewing racist for more than 20 years.As would be any person of color if the tides were turned. Unless of course he's had a recent awakening following the election and no longer shares Wrights ideologies.Then there's his other list of questionable acquaintances.

Also as President, Obama will be poised to perhaps dampen some of the racial divisiveness that seems more pervasive than ever.Time will tell.
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Please give it a rest Therese, this is a re-run of the birth certificate sleaze.
It ain't over till it's over.

Birth Certificate Cases Still On Radar

The Supreme Court will end the wrangling one way or the other.
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It ain't over till it's over.

Birth Certificate Cases Still On Radar

The Supreme Court will end the wrangling one way or the other.
Thanks for sharing the link.

There was some information there I hadn't been previously aware of and which would shed some additional light on why Obama has fought so hard to prevent the vault BC from being discovered:
"Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence," the document said. "The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama's original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him."
So, what is it his father put on that BC that Obama doesn't want to let see the light of day?


You are right, it ain't over till the fat lady sings, and she ain't sung yet . . . .



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Good catch Therese.
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