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Old 01-09-2009, 09:00 AM   #1
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Default UBS closing U.S. clients' offshore accounts

UBS closing U.S. clients' offshore accounts

ZURICH (Reuters) – Swiss wealth manager UBS AG (UBSN.VX) (UBS.N) is closing all the offshore accounts of its U.S. clients, the bank said on Friday, as it comes under pressure from U.S. tax authorities.

The Swiss bank decided in July last year to stop offering offshore accounts to U.S. citizens after it was targeted by a U.S. tax investigation which challenges Switzerland's famous banking secrecy laws.

U.S. prosecutors have alleged UBS helped clients hide $18 billion of untaxed American money in undeclared accounts. This amounts to around $300 million of annual unpaid taxes, the newspaper said.

UBS spokesman Serge Steiner said the decision to close offshore accounts for U.S. domiciled clients was taken in November 2007. The bank started last year to close cash accounts of U.S. clients holding less than 50,000 Swiss francs ($45,660), he added.

"This is an ongoing process. It started last year and accelerated since last summer," Steiner said, confirming a New York Times report.

As part of the investigation, U.S. authorities indicted UBS's wealth management chief last year.

UBS, which U.S. authorities say helped wealthy Americans hide cash in offshore bank accounts, will shut about 19,000 offshore accounts, the paper said, quoting unnamed U.S. clients.

NO TIMEFRAME

UBS would not comment on the number of accounts to be closed and Steiner said it was not possible to say how long it would take for all the accounts to be closed.

"We cannot give any time framework for the whole exercise," he said.

Clients will have the option of transferring their assets to one of three U.S.-regulated units -- on-shore wealth management units in the U.S., Switzerland and Hong Kong -- or other banks, Steiner said.

They may also choose to receive checks, creating paper trails for U.S. federal prosecutors who are checking whether UBS clients used such accounts to evade taxes.

"You can either transfer the money to new banks, or deposit somewhere and get busted," a UBS client was quoted as saying in the newspaper report.

All banks in Switzerland are bound to strict bank secrecy laws but a Swiss banking source said local private banks would be reluctant to take on any of UBS' American offshore clients.

The transfer of more than $10,000 to a new bank is something that clients are expected to report to the Treasury Department, the paper said.

In a separate article, the Wall Street Journal said on Friday many U.S. clients of UBS had started to voluntarily turn themselves in to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. The clients have so far avoided serious punishment, the paper said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090109/bs_nm/us_ubs_1
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:43 AM   #2
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Denninger had an interesting post on this:



Don't people ever learn?

UBS will transfer the assets to other banks or other divisions within UBS, or will mail checks directly to the account holders, creating paper trails for federal prosecutors who are examining whether UBS clients used such accounts to evade taxes.

The clients now face stark choices: they can cash their checks, and thereby alert the authorities to any potential wrongdoing, or not cash them, effectively losing their money.

Heh heh heh.

And these aren't "ordinary" tax cheats either. Offshore accounts are the province of the "really rich", and we're talking some real money here - about $18 billion worth.

Here's the issue - if you cash the check (or wire it somewhere) you just created an indelible record of ownership of the funds. Since you didn't disclose this account to the IRS (it's perfectly legal for a US Citizen to have offshore holdings, but you must disclose your interest in them on your tax returns and pay tax on your gains, just like any other gain) the IRS will then assume that the entire sum is the proceeds of some illegal scheme and presto - its not a tax problem any more, its a money laundering issue, a much more serious offense.

Frankly, I like it.

I hate the IRS. Essentially any red-blooded American does. But the fact remains that the law is the law, and paying taxes is part of being a citizen. Yes, it sucks - I don't like stroking those checks any more than the next guy, and God knows I've gotten writer's cramp more than once paying these buttclowns in DC. But if I can write 'em, so can the "really rich folks", and its about damn time that the abusive tax games of the "rich and famous" are stopped and the guilty punished.

As for UBS, they get no pass. They ought to be under indictment, not just closing accounts. Conspiracy to defraud should lead both them and their clients directly to the dock where they can face a Racketeering charge - both criminally and civilly. Since civil Racketeering suits (by the government) expose you to penalties that are up to three times the amount of the fraud, the $60 billion that the IRS could recover from UBS should definitely be pursued - in a year of a trillion deficit, $60 billion is a meaningful down payment.


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These accounts were for the wanna-be rich.

The REAL rich have accounts in Andorra and Lichtenstein.

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These accounts were for the wanna-be rich.

The REAL rich have accounts in Andorra and Lichtenstein.

Yep--and a couple other places I have of.

This is total bullshit in my opinion---they are goign to fuck this group of people who are "rich" but the politically connected will get a pass as usual.
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Yep--and a couple other places I have of.
You mean like Cook Islands and Panama? Germany is having a real go at Lichtenstein, and I am not sure how long that will remain a haven. If it is in continental Europe, the EU will get to it eventually. If it is in the Western Hemisphere, the US will get to it eventually. That leaves Asia.
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That leaves Asia.
Macau
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South American?
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South American?
Two thumbs up for Uruguay

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