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Old 10-07-2016, 06:28 PM   #26
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Much of Africa is fairly lawless and/or corrupt .

IMO China will eventually need to send forces there to protect
their assets and personnel . So I think it highly likely parts of
Africa will eventually turn in to some kind of Chinese colony .

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On a limited scale, parts of it already are. There are many Chinese "company towns" there. In the mining industry, for example. By agreement (tacit or explicit) local and national officials have no say as to what goes on in the facilities.

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Much of Africa is fairly lawless and/or corrupt .

IMO China will eventually need to send forces their to protect
their assets and personnel . So I think it highly likely parts of
Africa will eventually turn in to some kind of Chinese colony .

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Old 10-07-2016, 09:07 PM   #28
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Tens of billions of dollars have been sunk into Africa by many nations over the last six decades.

Now China is going to show everyone how it is done?

We shall see.

I wonder how many troops they will end up committing into how many parts of Africa?
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I wonder how many troops they will end up committing into how many parts of Africa?
I wonder how many china can keep occupied at home? Africa seem a better option.
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Old 10-25-2016, 04:22 PM   #30
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I wonder how many china can keep occupied at home? Africa seem a better option.
The world is changing fast, the new maps will look interesting.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:12 PM   #31
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Before China goes down, Japan and Britain will hit the ground first.

Watch Japan and Britain and then turn your eyes to North America long before you begin to gaze towards China.

Each time a rumour is started with the claim that China is heading for collapse, that is just Western propaganda to prop up their own Feel Good agenda.

If/when China goes down, it will be after (not before) the collapse of the West.

In actual fact, the only reason that the world has not walked away from the U.S. dollar already is because the U.S. will nuke anybody who dares to because the Americans view themselves as being an "Exceptional" nation.

The American Capitalist System is a cult.

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This chart is now a little old but I think it says volumes about
where the Chinese currency is going ( in to the toilet ) .



IMO when the market wants your currency on that scale just
to short sell it , then the Chinese yuan is ( in my opinion )
doomed to sink much further .

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Most wealthy Chinese apparently know a train wreck when they see one .

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.....buying properties overseas is the modus operandi to get their
wealth out of harm’s way. The numbers are staggering:

60% of high net-worth individuals (HNWI) in China are planning to
buy real estate in other countries over the next three years,
with the target of moving one-third of their wealth overseas,
according to an annual survey, conducted by Hurun Research Institute
and Visas Consulting Group.
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In short, China's trade - aside from the recent burst in coal imports -
is once again slowing down rapidly, and what makes it worse is that this is
taking place shortly after another massive credit impulse and near-record
fiscal stimulus was created to stimulate the economy.
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The fall in Chinese Fx reserves continues.


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The latest reserve figure come amid signs that ramped-up efforts to curb
heavy capital outflows have begun to interfere with foreign businesses in
China. Several European firms have been unable to remit dividends due
to new foreign exchange controls that the EU Chamber of Commerce in
Beijing called “disruptive to business operations”.

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If I were the leader of China and I was told directly from the leader of America that it is a certainty that America intends to do whatever it takes to destroy whatever prospects China has for success ...... and is prepared to use military force if necessary to curb China's place upon the world stage.

I would begin putting as many roadblocks up as I could and begin selling my American bonds for intellectual property and property itself.

In addition, I would be buying gold like crazy.

On the defense front, I would be manufacturing nuclear weapons as though they were toy dolls. America only sanctions and bombs those countries which are defenseless like Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Africa. I would be like Pizza-Pizza .... 2 for one.

You can't rely upon any American signed agreements or protocols like the SWIFT banking system or the WTO or Free Trade agreements.

Just this past week America reneged on the nuclear agreements reached with Iran and recently suggested again that Canada's North West Passage is not a sovereign waterway.

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Old 12-15-2016, 05:29 PM   #37
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Oooopsie !

The 9 Trillion$ Chinese bond market is in a little trouble .

After all , why would you want to buy or own bonds denominated in
a currency that is doomed to sink in value during the bonds life .



More detail found here .


And now for the really good news ......

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But the worst news is that in an economy driven entirely by cheap,
abundant credit, at least until now, the consequences of the bursting of the
bond bubble will only emerge in the coming weeks as China's economy,
all of which is vastly reliant and lubricated by said cheap credit, slows down dramatically,
and which in turn will spillover to both the global economy and capital markets.
The only question is when.

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China's True FX Outflows Since August 2015 Are $1.1 Trillion,
Double The Official Number

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Two months ago, when looking at an alternative measure of Chinese
capital outflows using SAFE data, Goldman found that contrary to official
PBOC reserve data, "China's Capital Outflows Are Soaring Again",
having hit $78 billion in September.

Over the weekend, and following the latest PBOC data which revealed an
outflow of $56 billion in November (which was only $34 billion when FX
adjusted), Goldman repeated its FX flow calculation using SAFE data,
and found the China continues to mask the full extent of its outflows,
which in November spiked to $69 billion, and that "since June, this data
has continued to suggest significantly larger FX sales by the PBOC than is
implied by FX reserve data", once again suggesting that China is eager to
mask the true extent of reserve outflows, perhaps in an attempt to not
precipitate the feedback loop of even further panicked selling of Yuan
and even more outflows, and thus, even more reserve depletion.
Extracted from here.

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Tianjin Stock Exchange crash is still taking people.

Many people in China are putting all of their money to capture some of the balloon. Thinks are slowing down, those 20% returns they were getting are stopping, and margin calls are happening wiping them out.

Being financially illiterate many of them see this as fraud rather than investment risk.


Horrifying mass suicide attempt on Beijing underground train as 'fraud victims' collapse in agony after drinking mysterious liquid

WARNING - UPSETTING CONTENT: The group of five women and three men could be seen on two packed trains in China drinking from a canister on Boxing Day

More: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...eijing-9534976
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They have started a massive crack-down against Muslims, a safer bet than an external war
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A small flash crash of the Chinese Yuan .

Driven by fear of a government devaluation or the imposition of
capital controls ( one assumes ) . Doubtless there is also substantial
short selling ( only for the very brave ) .




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