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Old 01-28-2017, 08:46 PM   #1
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Default Pesticides ---> Diabetes ????

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In small doses, pesticides are lethal to insects. In larger quantities, they
outright kill people and may cause cancer. However, an intriguing study
conducted in Tamil Nadu suggests that even in trace doses, insecticides
could cause diabetes particularly among agricultural workers who intimately
work with them.

According to the team of scientists from Madurai Kamaraj University, this
happens because the colony of bacteria that populate our gut — or gut
microbiota as they are called — chemically break down the insecticide into
short chain fatty acids like acetic acid, increase glucose production in cells,
and eventually lead to glucose intolerance and type 2 diabetes.
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Agent Orange, used extensively in Vietnam during the war, was a herbicide / defoliant and it caused type II diabetes.

Took the V.A. 20 years to acknowledge this and the impact on the lives and in some cases, the children (Spina Bifida -- the only (AFAIK) case where the V.A. provides compensation directly to a child borne to an AO affected vet) worsens over time.

And type II diabetes isn't the only health problems directly related to AO exposure.
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Frankly it does not make a lot of sense to me .

Surely you would have to consume an amazing amount of pesticide
to acquire diabetes from increased glucose production .

I assume therefore there must be another pathway to diabetes from
pesticides.

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Frankly it does not make a lot of sense to me .

Surely you would have to consume an amazing amount of pesticide
to acquire diabetes from increased glucose production .

I assume therefore there must be another pathway to diabetes from
pesticides.

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I can't speak to all pesticides, herbicides, insecticides; however in the case of AO it was able to affect those in country (Vietnam) via the skin, both through direct contact with the substance, usually repeatedly and more or less, indirectly; through wearing clothes that were often saturated in the substance as well as inhalation.

In the best circumstances a person working with AO would have on protective gear, such as it was and would have the time to wash off any unintended direct contact with the AO.

However in the case of veterans in Vietnam, there was often neither time nor access to being able to decontaminate from unintended exposure. In the field changing ones clothes was not a priority and often, not even an option.

Over spray would become air borne and be breathed in. Over spray would often land on solid surfaces such as equipment and such.

Personally for my hubby, it was working in areas with over spray landing on him and his clothes and the equipment he had to use. This happened countless times over the period of years, during his three tours of duty in Vietnam. He said there were times his clothes would be soaked with a combination of AO, sweat and other body fluids, sometimes for days at end. That was the reality of war.

That said I personally am inclined to believe / wonder, if an individual might already have a predisposition towards type II diabetes and the reactive properties of AG simply triggered a response. Granted it took years for the full effect to present. And it was often already affecting the veterans body before an official diagnosis of diabetes was given. Until about the mid 1990's, IIRC, higher fasting blood sugar levels that didn't exceed (IIRC) 150, was considered 'pre-diabetes' and the person would be told to limit their sugar intake and watch their diet overall.

Now we're aware that even prior to formal diagnosis, elevated fasting blood sugars are indicative of diabetes and potentially affecting the body.

Looking back, I know that for at least a year and a half prior to formal diagnosis, hubby was presenting classic symptoms of diabetes; but he denied any affect and civilian doctors had simply written off to being a warning sign for him to 'watch his diet / sugar intake'.
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Diabetes, at least Type 1 has been around since humans have been around before chemicals.
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