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Old 08-15-2012, 11:27 AM   #51
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sandyd, oranges are a winter crop so the fruit is not affected by the weather now. The citrus trees, however, are loving it - so long as the farmers go heavy on spraying. The same rain that feeds the trees also increases the number of pests, and fungus diseases. Not much grows outside of the FL panhandle in the summer, but what does grow is thriving in the cooler, wetter conditions. Peanuts, sweet potatoes, okra, sunflowers, mango, avocado and longan are all going gangbusters. Cattle is also doing very well on the lush pasture.
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Here is another forecast for the imminent down turn from another scientist .
This particular prediction was made in March 2012 .

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The warm years ahead are not the result of ‘man-made global warming’ - as no such thing exists.

According to the laws of thermodynamics and physics; only the Sun can cause global warming. The world has been in its most recent warming phase since 1980. I have forecast that the global warming regime - a total of 36 years - will end in about 2016-17.

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According to my calculations, 2012 will be a very warm year with record-setting heat waves. The summer will feature sweltering temperatures that could easily reach over 100+ degrees Fahrenheit with persistence.

High summer temperatures- heat waves - will dominate all summer and straight into September and October 2012 with above average warmer than normal temperatures that will easily extend into the autumn season.

My calculations show to expect daily average temperatures to exceed the expected average temperatures of 63+ degrees over 92 days during the months of June, July and August 2012 with 3-4 major heat waves - each lasting multiple days with daily maximums above 90+ degrees Fahrenheit with 100+ degree readings ample across the United States.

A blistering summer is just ahead right into September 2012 as well as a heat wave will occur in that month as well.


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I would advise caution to whom you let it be known about your belief the Sun is largely
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Here is another forecast for 2014 and not from any old scientist either .

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Dr Habibullo Abdussamatov, astrophysicist, is head of the Russian segment
of the International Space Station, and head of Space Research of the Sun Sector
at the Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
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“Habibullo Abdusamatov, a scientist from the Pulkovo Observatory
of the Russian Academy of Sciences considers that the sharp drop in temperature will start on the Earth in 2014.

“According to the scientist, our planet began to “get cold” in the 1990s.
The new ice age will last at least two centuries, with its peak in 2055.
http://iceagenow.info/2012/02/ice-age-2014/



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responsible for changes in global temperatures. They'll be calling you a radical.
Thanks Sonny , but that is what I am shooting for ,
Guantanamo is in a nice warm location .
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Another great piece by David Archibald .
I have only posted charts and extracted paragraphs .

Onset of the Next Glaciation
by David Archibald
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Baby boomers like me have enjoyed the most benign period in human history. The superpower nuclear standoff gave us fifty years of relative peace, we had cheap energy from inherent over-supply of oil, grain supply increased faster than population growth and the climate warmed due to the highest solar activity for 8,000 years. All those trends are now reversing. But it will get much worse than that. The next glaciation will wipe out many countries and nothing will stop that from happening. For example, the UK will end up looking like Lapland. As an indication of just how vicious it is going to get, consider that there are rocks on the beaches of Scotland that got blown over from Norway across a frozen North Sea. As scientists, our task is to predict the onset of the next glaciation.
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Onset of interglacials is driven by insolation at 65°N. That is where the landmass is that is either snow-covered all year round or not. It seems that insolation above 510 watts/sq metre will end a glacial period. For an interglacial period to end, the oceans have to lose heat content so that snows will linger through the summer and increase the Earth’s albedo. Thanks to the disposition of the continents, our current ice age might last tens of millions of years yet. From the Milankovitch data, this graph shows insolation at 65°N from 50,000 BC to 50,000 AD:


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Insolation is already low enough to trigger glacial onset. For the last 8,000 years, the Earth has been cooling at 0.25°C per thousand years, so the oceans are losing heat. We just have to get to that trigger point at which snows linger through the northern summer. Solar Cycle 25 might be enough to set it off. By the end of this decade, we will be paying more attention to the Rutgers Global Snow Lab data.


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Only the Sun causes global warming.

Carbon sequestration is a direct result of the sun growing plants that capture the carbon.

You burn the sequestered carbon, and you release the enrgy stored (which came from the SUN.)

Reverse 400 million years of carbon sequestration, and you get 400 million years worht of excess stored energy.

And that's just the direct energy..,

Greenhouse warming has already been beaten to death. I won't go there again.
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A likely out come ? Burning the forests ?

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Greeks Raid Forests In Search Of Wood To Heat Homes

Greece just seems to be getting worse and worse. Being the leading edge of
Southern Europe’s descent into 3rd world status,

EGALEO, Greece—While patrolling on a recent cold night, environmentalist
Grigoris Gourdomichalis caught a young man illegally chopping down a tree on
public land in the mountains above Athens.


When confronted, the man broke down in tears, saying he was unemployed
and needed the wood to warm the home he shares with his wife and four
small children, because he could no longer afford heating oil.........
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...ood-heat-homes

As others have noted the lack of forests in North Korea may be a similar story .


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The research paper found here suggests the coming event
will be a Dalton minimum event rather than a Maunder minimum
( That is a milder downturn ) .


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Total global sea ice at a new high .



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Total global sea ice at a new high .



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I saw that too. Global warming sure is fickle in it's presentation. From what I see if it gets any hotter - were going to freeze!
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A most interesting theory can be found here on how variation
in solar activity drives the earths climate via changes to ozone
distribution and levels .











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I like the addition of sunspots. That makes a lot of sense in relation to the absence of sunspot activity and cooling and lots of sunspots and warming.
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An interesting documentary on the Sun, solar flares, space weather and the impact on Earth's climate.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lURsrtdNy4

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An interesting reader comment I found at a climate website.
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I consulted a chronology of weather during the coldest parts of the Little Ice
Age which ended in 1850. Often the summers were of normal temperature ,
but unreliable as to starting and ending dates which played havoc w crops.
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Interesting thread Ross, especially the time scale!

Have nicked some pics to add to my collection. I use them to annoy guests who try to talk green.

BTW, the business with the crops has already started.
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There are global high temp records for consecutive months and years and still talking about an ice age ?
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BTW, the business with the crops has already started.
More information would be nice . Links ?

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and still talking about an ice age ?
Oric I do understand how crazy this must sound to a casual reader .

Unfortunately to explain why it is likely to become cold would
involve a massive amount of work and you still may not believe it .

No payoff except frustration and lost time .

If you want to understand reading this thread is as
good a starting point as any . In particular links
to articles by Dr. Archibald .

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Oric, I do not want to go into this also, but rest assured that we are going into a short 30 year period of cooling!

Trust me when I say that the scientists are 99.97% sure we will have global cooling within 10-15 years. I have NEVER heard a previous scientist say ANYTHING with that high of certainty! If you ever see snow - prepare to freeze. THIS IS A CERTAINTY!!!!!!
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I so much wish to sped my possible 30 years of life in cold and freezing winters, but the balance of the atmosphere has been tilted beyond repair. We will MELT
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