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Old 02-16-2012, 09:06 AM   #1
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Default Health Canada shuts website selling industrial-strength bleach as health cure

MMS sales site shut down - 3 badly poisoned, one almost fatally.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02...s-health-cure/
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:26 AM   #2
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Default Businessman says federal government bullying his small business

‘Miracle’ supplement can cure cancer, vendor claims after Calgary website shut down
http://www.canada.com/health/Miracle...559/story.html

Businessman says federal government bullying his small business

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I have been taking MMS - Cl02 - Chlorine Dioxide for almost 3 years now at 3 drops MMS acidified with citric acid twice daily taken with a glass of water. This works out to .016% concentration and once acidified it is no longer sodium chlorite, it is chlorine dioxide, an oxidizer that is weaker than oxygen which is a strong oxidizer.

When used in a industrial applications the concentrations are a million times stronger.

Sodium chlorite - NaCl02...that is salt with 2 oxygen molecules.
Acidify with citric acid, drops the sodium and you have Cl02, chlorine dioxide which has a weaker oxidation voltage than Oxygen.
This has a very weak bonding and falls apart in your system after a couple of hours which releases the Cl molecule as inert waste, just as when you digest table salt (NaCl)....strips off the sodium molecule and the Cl becomes waste.



I recently did a test to see if my system is still clean of pathogens, heavy metals, chemicals etc..............
I took 3 drops an hour for 10 hours the first day. 4 drops an hour for 10 hours the second day and 6 drops an hour for 10 hours the third day.
There was no nausea or excessive diarrhea, my system is still clean.

I will continue to use MMS Chlorine Dioxide - Cl02 following the PROPER PROTOCOLS as set out by Jim Humble at his website http://jimhumble.biz/


BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE PROTOCOLS OF MMS - CHLORINE DIOXIDE .
USE MMS RESPONSIBLY!
http://jimhumble.biz


Free E-Book download of Jim Humble`s first book - The Miracle Mineral Solution of the 21st Century Part 1 as a PDF at:
http://miraclemineral.org/products/t...-21st-century/


Free E-Book downlaod of Jim Humble`s second book - The Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Millennium Part 1 as PDf at:
http://miraclemineral.org/products/t...rd-millennium/





An earlier thread - Alert issued on danger supplement
http://thisbluemarble.com/showthread.php?t=30861

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I recently did a test to see if my system is still clean of pathogens, heavy metals, chemicals etc..............
I took 3 drops an hour for 10 hours the first day. 4 drops an hour for 10 hours the second day and 6 drops an hour for 10 hours the third day.
There was no nausea or excessive diarrhea, my system is still clean.
Perhaps you could educate us how this happens biologically and chemically.


But to the original post. Mentally capable people should be able to put anything in their body they wish.

It is the fraud and misinformation I worry about.

It is clear that the company did NOT publish adequate information how to use the stuff. Perhaps they only sold it as "pool chemicals" <wink, wink> and hinted at the other stuff.

Bad form.
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Perhaps you could educate us how this happens biologically and chemically.
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Chemically does not apply to Chlorine Dioxide - ClO2.

Cl02 utilizes the body`s natural process of oxidation as oxygen does.

Oxygen can oxidize a pathogen by grabbing 2 electrons of a pathogen to destroy/disable it.
Chlorine Dioxide - Cl02 oxidizes by grabbing 5 electrons of a pathogen. Cl02 is a more effective oxidizer.

Cl02 actually assists the immune system in eliminating pathogens.

Cl02 has the same electrical charge polarity and does not have a strong enough oxidation voltage to oxidize health cells or the good intestinal bacteria/flora .
Pathogens have an opposite charge and are weaker, so Cl02 is able to oxidize pathogens.

Once the pathogen load is removed with Cl02, the body can now bring back into balance and repair the body unit.



For additional information on Chlorine Dioxide - Cl02 watch "Understanding MMS" YouTubeVideo below in my Signature links


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Old 02-20-2012, 04:26 PM   #7
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Default MMS Beginnings: Jim Humble Interview by Adam Abraham

MMS Beginnings: Jim Humble Interview by Adam Abraham -Talk For Food Radio
Youtube video - 10 min.




In light of warnings against the use of MMS, the Miracle Mineral Supplement issued by the FDA, Adam Abraham interviews Jim Humble, who saw the potential of internal use of chlorine dioxide and developed the protocol. This is part of Adam's radio show, Talk For Food (www.webtalkradio.net).



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Old 02-20-2012, 04:33 PM   #8
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Need to find watching 'Understanding MMS' before being able to comment.
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Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 1/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?playnex...8C1BBF6219CB65

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I noticed that purveyors of MMS are running a sleazy little deception using the Google search engine. If you search for 'MMS quackwatch', you would think that would take you to the popular and well-known Quackwatch.org site. But what they have done is set up their own pro-MMS propaganda site called MMSfacts.com. There is a page on that site entitled 'quackwatch', but of course it has absolutely nothing to do with quackery or the Quackwatch.org site. Apparently they 'Google-bombed' the Google search engine so that their phony page comes up as the first result using the search terms I described. The wording of the postings on the page is cleverly, designed to fool people looking for information debunking MMS. They start out with, 'I cannot recommend MMS', then they go on to extol its 'amazing virtues' and recommend it. They also set up their phony page posts so that you cannot copy & paste them, making it more difficult to post examples to show their scamming methods to others.

Here is their page:
http://www.mmsfacts.com/tag/quackwatch

Here is the real Quackwatch page on MMS:
http://www.quackwatch.org/02Consumer...tions/mms.html

This kind of manipulative disinformation tactic is standard stuff for fraudsters out to fleece the gullible.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:18 PM   #11
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still slowly going through the video... other things I'm dealing with, so it's slow.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:27 PM   #12
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I thought this thread died last year.

I hesitate to post the appropriate JPG..,

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Even after watching the video you won't "understand" it..,
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:34 PM   #13
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This: "Pathogens have an opposite charge and are weaker"
is nonsense.

As is this: "Chemically does not apply to Chlorine Dioxide "
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Part two partway through; checking statements he makes as I go is slowing me up.
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Issues I'm having so far:

"Pathogens are held together by electrons." No, MOLECULES are held together by electrons, ionically or covalently.

"Almost anything poisonous is acidic by nature." I have a list of alkaline substances that would argue that, if they could speak.

If Chlorine dioxide works by taking an electron from 'something' in an oxidation reaction, why preferentially a virus, heavy metal, other 'poison' or any pathogenic microbe. Molecules are molecules & pure substance - he's trying to scale up molecular chemistry - it's overly simplistic to do that & wrong.
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Issues I'm having so far:

"Pathogens are held together by electrons." No, MOLECULES are held together by electrons, ionically or covalently.

"Almost anything poisonous is acidic by nature." I have a list of alkaline substances that would argue that, if they could speak.

If Chlorine dioxide works by taking an electron from 'something' in an oxidation reaction, why preferentially a virus, heavy metal, other 'poison' or any pathogenic microbe. Molecules are molecules & pure substance - he's trying to scale up molecular chemistry - it's overly simplistic to do that & wrong.
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Do you even wonder why it's called a "mineral supplement."

It's not a mineral, doesn't have any minerals in it.
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Of course it is all bullsh*t but true believers can't be convinced.

A year or so down the road it will be something else, they will all switch over, and they will conveniently forget the previous cure alls.
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People have been using Jim Humble`s chlorine dioxide protocols for 12+ years now.

Healthy cells require a strong oxidation voltage to oxidize the cell .
Chlorine dioxide has a very weak oxidation voltage and cannot oxidize a healthy cell.
Pathogens are much weaker and only require a weak oxidation voltage to oxidize the cell which chlorine dioxide is able to do.


Ozone Therapy (03) and Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy (H202) are very strong oxidizers.......they have a strong oxidation voltage and can damage healthy cells but are used in very small doses.

The human body is designed to utilize the process of OXIDATION............it is an electron voltage exchange.



More info...........................

The Science Behind The Treatment

On The Mechanisms Of Toxicity Of Chlorine Oxides Against Malarial Parasites – An Overview

By Thomas Lee Hesselink, MD. Susan Busse, MD., John Peterson
September 6, 2007
http://genesis2costarica.org/science...orine-dioxide/




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Healthy cells require a strong oxidation voltage to oxidize the cell .

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That is what Dr. Frankenstein used to say.

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People have been using Jim Humble`s chlorine dioxide protocols for 12+ years now.
You know hearing "People have been using xxxx treatment for yyyy years" is just a variant of the 5th sign of junk science."

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5. The discoverer says a belief is credible because it has endured for centuries.

There is a persistent myth that hundreds or even thousands of years ago, long before anyone knew that blood circulates throughout the body, or that germs cause disease, our ancestors possessed miraculous remedies that modern science cannot understand. Much of what is termed "alternative medicine" is part of that myth.

Ancient folk wisdom, rediscovered or repackaged, is unlikely to match the output of modern scientific laboratories.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ics/signs.html


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Healthy cells require a strong oxidation voltage to oxidize the cell .
Chlorine dioxide has a very weak oxidation voltage and cannot oxidize a healthy cell.

Pathogens are much weaker and only require a weak oxidation voltage to oxidize the cell which chlorine dioxide is able to do.


Ozone Therapy (03) and Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy (H202) are very strong oxidizers.......they have a strong oxidation voltage and can damage healthy cells but are used in very small doses.

The human body is designed to utilize the process of OXIDATION............it is an electron voltage exchange.

Please, please tell me you aren't in the medical profession or a scientist.
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Please give your explanation of the process of oxidation within the human body!
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human beings existance violate the second law of thermodynamics, therefore they cannot exist.

The mere suggestion that order can be created out of chaos is pure bunk, and life as we know it is impossible, therefore we cannot exist.

Oxidation is a process that results in the lowering of the potential energy state of a prior structure, and since oxidation is a one path, and we still have a lot of free oxigen hanging around, we should all be made up of rust by now, therefore we cannot exist.

I don't understand how this isn't self evident to everyone.

We don't exist. We can't. Therefore we don't.

duh.

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Please give your explanation of the process of oxidation within the human body!
You do know how the Scientific Method works, right?

You proposed a theory how the process works. If it the person proposing the theory to support it.

It isn't the respondents job to prove the negative.
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You do know how the Scientific Method works, right?

You proposed a theory how the process works. If it the person proposing the theory to support it.

It isn't the respondents job to prove the negative.
... except with anthropogenic 'global warming'.
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