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Old 12-10-2016, 09:23 AM   #1
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Default The Fake News Thread

"Fake news." Or you can just call it censorship if that's easier to remember.

Who better to kick this thread off than Brian Williams?

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Now this is rich. Brian Williams, the disgraced ex-NBC journalist who was literally fired for falsely reporting that he was in a helicopter during the Iraq war that took on combatant fire, is now going on a crusade against "fake news." On his MSNBC show last night, Williams decided to attack retired General Flynn and Donald Trump for spreading "fake news" via their twitter accounts.

"The retired Army 3-star general has passed on some gems himself. Here are a few...Flynn retweeted accusations that Clinton is involved with child sex trafficking and has "secretly waged war" on the Catholic Church, as well as charges that Obama is a "jihadi" who "laundered" money for Muslim terrorists.

As we talked about here last night, fake news played a role in this election and continues to find a wide audience. A BuzzFeed news study of Donald Trump's own tweets where they followed back news stories to their root source found more of them came from Breitbart originally than any other single source."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgMa-TUo6lM

So, we should probably just ignore that time Williams simply "mis-remembered" being in a helicopter taking on combatant fire when he was actually completely safe in a convoy about an hour away.

“I don’t know what screwed up in my mind that caused me to conflate one aircraft with another.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCl4Y5-mfL0


This pretty much sums it up...



And, of course, more breaking news from Williams' current employer, the beacon of impartiality and purveyor of "real news," MSNBC.

David Burge @iowahawkblog
Breaking news from network that pays Brian Williams $10 million/yearhttps://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/807201932242800640 …


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Townhall just posted the 7 worst examples of Fake News

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnh...media-n2257896


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New York Times now raises questions about the authenticity of the 7-year old girl who
tweets from Aleppo":

"Sonia Khush and Juliette Touma basically said that it does not matter if the account
are true or not as long as the propaganda purpose is being achieved."
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Personally, I find the fake news very entertaining. Not sure why folks are so worked up about it.
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Default Former UK Ambassador Blasts "CIA's Blatant Lies", Shows "A Little Simple Logic Destroys Their Claims"

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http://www.zerohedge.com/print/580493

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Authored by Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, and was the Rector of the University of Dundee

I have watched incredulous as the CIA’s blatant lie has grown and grown as a media story – blatant because the CIA has made no attempt whatsoever to substantiate it. There is no Russian involvement in the leaks of emails showing Clinton’s corruption. Yes this rubbish has been the lead today in the Washington Post in the US and the Guardian here, and was the lead item on the BBC main news. I suspect it is leading the American broadcasts also.

A little simple logic demolishes the CIA’s claims. The CIA claim they “know the individuals” involved. Yet under Obama the USA has been absolutely ruthless in its persecution of whistleblowers, and its pursuit of foreign hackers through extradition. We are supposed to believe that in the most vital instance imaginable, an attempt by a foreign power to destabilise a US election, even though the CIA knows who the individuals are, nobody is going to be arrested or extradited, or (if in Russia) made subject to yet more banking and other restrictions against Russian individuals? Plainly it stinks. The anonymous source claims of “We know who it was, it was the Russians” are beneath contempt.

As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two. And it should be said again and again, that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened.

The continued ability of the mainstream media to claim the leaks lost Clinton the election because of “Russia”, while still never acknowledging the truths the leaks reveal, is Kafkaesque.
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Old 12-12-2016, 01:25 AM   #6
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That was an interesting read.
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I am not sure if this YouTube clip should be posted within the Syria thread or here as "Fake News".

The clip deals with the media propaganda about Syria.

Syria - Sovereignty and Peace.
Press Conference, United Nations
Independent journalist Eva Bartlett
December 09, 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AisvBNXPdG8

Complete Press Conference Here:

Full Press Conference at the United Nations. Against propaganda and regime change, for peace and national sovereignty.
The Permanent Mission of the Syrian Arab Republic to the United Nations.
Speakers: Dr. Bahman Azad, Member of the Coordinating Committee for the Hands Off Syria and Organization Secretary of US Peace Council, and Eva Bartlett, Independent Canadian Journalist.
December 09, 2016
(YouTube Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebE3GJfGhfA
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Here are just ten of the reasons the “Russian hacking” story is a sham — a left-wing twist on the red-baiting McCarthyism of the 1950s.
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:05 PM   #9
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:15 PM   #10
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Whenever you read a 'real news' story about 'fake news' remember, the editors who decided to create space in news cycle for that piece think millions of Americans are just to dumb to realize when something is so outrageous, it can't be all true. This attitude on the part of the media is, of course, an extension of their general political philosophy that suggests people are too stupid to make their own decisions about how big their soda should be or how much salt to use in their food. These are the same folks who believe that the government is the solution to all problems domestically and can do no right when it comes to foreign or military policy.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:32 PM   #11
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I had forgotten about this CNN Fake News broadcast during the first Gulf War.

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How about the one a few weeks ago where CNN had their own camera man act like an agitated protestor. I can only imagine what goes on in situations where they have time to "plan out the scene and script". Nothing like manufacturing news when it suits you. The irony, of course, is they do this for the same reason as the "fake news" sites: to make money.
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This starts with the same Iraq coverage as the one above but has a bunch more - and it was posted on YT back in 2014.

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Two stories I've seen this week:

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Police say a Volusia County man faked a hate crime, set his ex-girlfriend's car on fire and then staged his own abduction to throw off detectives.

Vincent Palmer, 27, told detectives he taped a note with racial slurs and the words "KKK" and "Trump" written on it to his ex-girlfriend's mailbox early Saturday before throwing a brick through her car window and dousing the back seat in gasoline because they were having problems over the custody of their children, according to an arrest report.
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A Muslim student who said she was harassed on the subway by drunken, hate-spewing white men shouting “Donald Trump!” lied to police because she broke her curfew, law enforcement sources said Wednesday.

Yasmin Seweid, 18, joined a growing list of local and national alleged hate-crime victims when she told cops she was taunted Dec. 1 on the No. 6 train by three men who called her a terrorist and tried to snatch her hijab off her head while straphangers did nothing.

But Seweid finally broke down Wednesday and was arrested after she admitted to detectives that it was all a big lie.

Police sources say Seweid made up the story because she didn’t want to get in trouble for breaking her curfew after being out late drinking with friends.

Her strict, Muslim parents allegedly forced Seweid to shave her head over the incident and were upset that she was dating a Christian, sources said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2910944

It would be interesting to know how many of these reported attacks turned out to be fake claims by the victim.
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About that last one, just blame it on the NYPD...

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“I’m not excusing what my sister did,” Sara wrote in the post. “I was horrified yesterday and I’m still trying to grapple with the facts. Things snowballed out of our control because of the media… reporters made things so much worse for our family.”

She said anti-Trump posts made by her family on their Facebook pages forced the cops and the media to discredit their story.

“I had more than one cop tell me that they’ve looked through all our social media… and it doesn’t look good that we’ve been vocal about certain issues they perceive to be anti -trump, anti-white and even anti-men.”

She continued that no one understood the “extent of the emotional and mental trauma Yasmin had to endure.”
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About that last one, just blame it on the NYPD...



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Are these people 5 year olds?
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Default Facebook is going to use Snopes and other fact-checkers to combat and bury 'fake news'

Perhaps Baghdad Bob could be the editor-in-chief.

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Facebook is going to start fact-checking, labeling, and burying fake news and hoaxes in its News Feed, the company said Thursday.

The decision comes after Facebook received heated criticism for its role in spreading a deluge of political misinformation during the US presidential election, like one story that falsely said the Pope had endorsed Donald Trump.

To combat fake news, Facebook has teamed up with a shortlist of media organizations, including Snopes and ABC News, that are part of an international fact-checking network led by Poynter, a nonprofit school for journalism in St. Petersburg, Florida.
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"Fake news." Or you can just call it censorship if that's easier to remember.

Who better to kick this thread off than Brian Williams?
Why would you call "Fake News" CENSORSHIP???
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Why would you call "Fake News" CENSORSHIP???
Because by labeling credible news that may be damaging to someone or something as fake news you discredit its veracity. Start by saying an individual story is fake and spread to an entire news organization such as Breitbart for example and from that point on anything they produce has a shadow of doubt surrounding it. Now we're defending Breitbart instead of talking about HRC's illegal use of a personal server, among MANY other things, is what cost her the election. It's one more way the government's propaganda machine (MSM) is attempting to control the narrative.
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As part of the crusade against "Fake News" Facebook has added a Fake News option to their feature for reporting posts.

I've decided to take advantage of this feature to flag NYT and WaPo posts for being fake news since sponsored posts from those often show up on my wall. I'm sure the impact will be negligible, but what if everyone who realizes that those new organizations have very slanted perspective started to use such a feature? Perhaps we could get the fake news crap to backfire on itself by convincing Facebook's algorithm that posts from such newspapers are indeed fake and misleading.
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Fake local news. They were reporting on the electoral college vote. They mentioned that there had been efforts to get Donald Trump electors to switch their votes, and then very carefully said that some electors had switched their votes and voted for people like Sanders or Collin Powell. They did not mention that those were CLINTON defectors, and you cannot convince me that it was not done purposefully.
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Horrible Facebook Algorithm Accident Results In Exposure To New Ideas
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