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Old 03-02-2017, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default Obama funneled billions to leftist groups

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The Obama administration funneled billions of dollars to activist organizations through a Department of Justice slush fund scheme, according to congressional investigators.

“It’s clear partisan politics played a role in the illicit actions that were made,” Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, told Fox News. “The DOJ is the last place this should have occurred.”

Findings spearheaded by the House Judiciary Committee point to a process shrouded in secrecy whereby monies were distributed to a labyrinth of nonprofit organizations involved with grass-roots activism.

“Advocates for big government and progressive power are using the Justice Department to extort money from corporations,” Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton told Fox News. “It’s a shakedown. It’s corrupt, pure and simple.”
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Old 03-02-2017, 11:47 AM   #2
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Well Obama started funneling funds to them years ago , surely this is
just more of the same .

However it will be interesting to see whether Obama put in place measures
that allow his own consequent enrichment and/or directing the flow of
funds to enhance his own political power .

I am also wondering whether it will be possible for Trump to undo that
flow of funds to Left-wing groups or is it too late.

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6.5 TRILLION went missing from the DoD under Obama

6 BILLION went missing from the State Department under Obama

Obama took 130 BILLION from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to keep Obamacare from imploding.

Now we learn BILLIONS were funneled from corporations to leftist groups under the DoJ.

Why are we paying taxes? And, why aren't people in jail?
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How did Obama get control of all that money?

If I remember my civics lessons, the President can't give money to anyone. Only Congress has complete control of the national purse strings.

And don['t forget that Obama had a Congress that was completely controlled by the republicans.

If all that money is "missing", then why isn't the Republican Party standing on their ears in rage???
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Spinner I cannot speak for other matters but after the 2009 GFC
banks were at risk of prosecution for major crime . As part of the
settlement ( escaping serious punishment ) they were required to
make massive ''donations'' to various Left-wing groups .
It was clearly an Obama admin way of channeling money to friends.

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I think Spinner is referring to the alleged pilfering of billions that FB mentions above. I agree - ain't gonna happen without Congress being on board. Republicans were in control of the House other than his first two years, so the idea that this was all Obama's doing is redonkulous. Republicans also spend public money like a drunken sailor in a Wan Chai whorehouse. They just spend it on different things.

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Spinner I cannot speak for other matters but after the 2009 GFC
banks were at risk of prosecution for major crime . As part of the
settlement ( escaping serious punishment ) they were required to
make massive ''donations'' to various Left-wing groups .
It was clearly an Obama admin way of channeling money to friends.

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I think Spinner is referring to the alleged pilfering of billions that FB mentions above. I agree - ain't gonna happen without Congress being on board. Republicans were in control of the House other than his first two years, so the idea that this was all Obama's doing is redonkulous. Republicans also spend public money like a drunken sailor in a Wan Chai whorehouse. They just spend it on different things.
Are you sure about that that last part?
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Sysiphus, Congress can allocate monies but it is up to the recipient to see that money is properly spent. The DoJ "slush fund" was redirected to leftist organizations, and some of it eventually funneled down to the Clinton campaign and her election efforts.

Trillions in the military budget cannot be accounted for:

In order to get a better handle on military spending, Congress ordered an audit. Trillions disappeared, and it is a mess because the Army's books are full of false numbers to match the Treasury Dept's accounts, and they can't figure it out:

The Department of Defense Inspector General report found the Army “could not adequately support” $2.8 trillion in adjustments in one quarter and $6.5 trillion for the year. "The IG’s findings echo a 2013 Reuters investigation into the Navy by Scot Paltrow, which found that Defense Finance and Accounting Service (DFAS) supervisors pressured accountants to plug in false numbers to make the Navy’s totals match the Treasury Department’s accounts." "The DFAS has the sole responsibility for paying all DOD military and personnel, retirees and annuitants, along with Pentagon contractors and vendors. The agency is also in charge of electronic government initiatives, including within the Executive Office of the President, the Department of Energy and the Departing of Veterans Affairs.”

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6 Billion vanished in Clinton's DoD:

The State Department’s Inspector General supervised three investigations and two audits that estimated $6 billion was lost to contract mismanagement, fraud and incompetence during Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state. Now, it is possible this money just ended up in the hands of overcharging contractors. But considering how Clinton has operated across the board, and the amount of money involved, I don't think it is that simple.

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Obama's WHITE HOUSE tried to block litigation targeting 130 Billion taken from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac:

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Investors challenging the legality of the government’s effective nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in August 2012 appear to be making some headway with at least one of the two key trial judges presiding over the sprawling, $130 billion litigation stemming from that event.

The ruling could possibly carry political fallout as well. Four of the documents—which the White House tried to withhold by invoking presidential privilege—were authored by, or sent to President Barack Obama’s then-National Economic Council director Gene Sperling. Now an economic advisor to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Sperling also has been mentioned in the media as a possible Treasury Secretary in a Clinton administration.

The order came in a group of consolidated cases, including Fairholme’s, which are all being brought by shareholders in the two government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). The suits allege that an agreement struck between Treasury and FHFA in August 2012, under which all the GSEs’ profits each quarter since then have been diverted to the Treasury, amounted to an unconstitutional “taking” of their property without just compensation in violation of the fifth amendment.
http://fortune.com/2016/10/04/fannie...ng-government/
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:58 AM   #10
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Didn't Rumsfeld say there was some $2 trillion missing from the defense budget the day before 9/11?
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Didn't Rumsfeld say there was some $2 trillion missing from the defense budget the day before 9/11?
The annual defense budget is roughly $550 billion, and in the early 2000s, the entire federal budget was a bit under $2 trillion. So, I am struggling to see how $2 trillion (or $6.5 trillion!) can just go missing from the defense budget without Congress doing anything about it. Contrary to what is being said here, Congress does keep track of what happens to appropriated funds - it has to or else it won't be able to set the next year's budget. This is a big part of the role of the CBO.
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According to DH, some of that "disappeared" funding went for NSA's budget (and maybe the CIA and other spooks.) It's all rolled into DoD's budget so that the public doesn't know that NSA is costing them $XXXXXXXXXX
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