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Old 03-05-2009, 03:15 PM   #1
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Default Limbaugh - Steele feud could mean the end for GOP RNC chair

Conservatives say Limbaugh - Steele feud could mean the end for GOP chair

By Jimmy Orr | 03.05.09


Is GOP Chief Michael Steele already a lame duck?
So soon?

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Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) and Michelle Malkin were talking about the whole Rush Limbaugh-Michael Steele hoo-hah (now entering day 5), and neither had a problem when the GOP chief took on Limbaugh. But it was the flip-flop that did the most damage.

“What was he thinking when he groveled afterwards?” Reynolds asked. “If you strike at the king, you must kill him. And if you strike at Rush, you at least have to stick to your guns.”

Back it up

Malkin agreed, saying she doesn’t have a problem with anyone criticizing Rush, but if you do, “you better have the facts to back it up.”

What caused a lot of conservatives to “really cringe,” she said, was when Steele “sat there on CNN … nodding his head and basically agreeing with [the host’s] premise that the GOP convention was akin to ‘Nazi Germany.’”
“Way to go defending your people,” Malkin said.

Wait, there’s more

Then another dagger.
“What he didn’t say was very damning and probably almost fatally damaging the rest of his chairmanship,” she said.

Wow. That duck is awfully young for being lame.
You can watch the whole video here.

Debate?
By the way, now all the talk is about Limbaugh’s challenge to the president to debate him. Although everyone thinks it’s unlikely to happen, the Kansas City Star’s Yael Abouhalkah says Obama should take the bait.

You can read the whole piece here. Abouhalkah argues that “this would be a way for Obama to show he won’t back down from a challenge to his administration’s view of how to lead the country.”

“After all, Obama has been meeting with many Republicans in private to get them to buy into his program. He ought to approach the Republicans on their home turf – Limbaugh’s radio program. Will he change many minds? Probably not. Then again, the debates with McCain solidified Obama’s victory march last fall.”

By the way, in other hard-hitting news… The Obama daughters have a new swing set. Click here to check it out.



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Why in the world should Obama debate that fat, druggie windbag? Rush describes himself as an "entertainer" and is a big blowhard. Obama is president of this country and has several boatloads of major problems to deal with and only 24 hours in each day.

Rush Limbarf has flat said that he "hopes Obama fails." Why? If Obama fails in his attempts to turn this country around, what happens then? Rush doesn't bother to think that deeply obviously.

Obama must live with this responsibility and pressure every moment of every day. He should waste his time "debating" an entertainer who wishes him and his programs and efforts ill? What a joke.
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Old 03-05-2009, 04:19 PM   #3
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Because socialism always fails in the end. The sooner Obama's socialist programs collapse, the better. If that kind of pain it what it takes for the nation to understand why socialism sucks, then let it happen now so we can get through it and move on all the sooner.
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Old 03-05-2009, 04:28 PM   #4
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sh:Because socialism always fails in the end. The sooner Obama's socialist programs collapse, the better. If that kind of pain it what it takes for the nation to understand why socialism sucks, then let it happen now so we can get through it and move on all the sooner.
Oh, yes, the industrialized countries are all failed, and the USA is a comparative tower of strength and economic contentment.

At least, that is what you tell yourself over and over.
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Here's the quote, in context:

HANNITY: Coming off record-ratings year for you, but you — you are a passionate conservative. You've defined conservatives for many people in this country for years. He [Obama] represents the antithesis in terms of his world view.

So then the question becomes, do you want him to succeed?

LIMBAUGH: Now — this — I am so glad that he asked me that question. That you asked me this question.

HANNITY: I'm glad to.

LIMBAUGH: I'll tell you why. I am hearing many Republicans say that — well, we want him to succeed and prominent Republicans. Yes, we wanted — they have laid down. They have totally — they're drinking the Kool- Aid, too. They have no guts to stand up for what their beliefs are because they're afraid of criticism, they're afraid of being called racists, they're afraid of not having gotten with the program.

Now success can be defined two ways. I said earlier I don't know about this guy. I really don't. I've got my — I've got my suspicions, and they're pretty close to convictions, but we're going to have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan, if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln, and if he does cut some taxes.

HANNITY: Yes.

LIMBAUGH: If he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan, but if he's going to do FDR, if he's going to do the new, new deal all over which we will call here the raw deal, why would I want him to succeed?

Look, he's my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. I — if he is going to implement a far left — look it. I think it's already decided. $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government. I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation.

If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it's over, Sean. We're never going to roll that back. That's the end of America as we have known it because that's then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided.

Why would I want that to succeed? I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future, it's not what made this country great.

So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail, if his agenda is a far- left collectivism, some people say socialism, as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?

(END VIDEOTAPE)

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HANNITY: And continuing now with my exclusive interview with nationally syndicated radio talk show host, Rush Limbaugh.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HANNITY: You want your country to succeed, and you believe that his views implemented represent failure, predictable failure, and conservatism would — represent predictable success.

LIMBAUGH: Well, I don't know where what he wants to try has worked. It didn't work in the Soviet Union. It hasn't worked in China. They're having to become like us in China in order to survive. It hasn't worked in Cuba. It hasn't worked — it didn't work when the pilgrims arrived. They tried socialism. Remember, they had a plot of ground, they shared what they produced, and the slackers figured out they didn't have to produce anything to get goodies.

And so — you know, William Bradford said the heck with this, and he said OK, you get to keep everything you produce, and you're not sharing it. So everybody had to work — really giving thanks to God for the less — socialism failed.

I — it has never worked. The new deal didn't work. You know, Hoover was president through the depression for one year. FDR prolonged the new deal for seven or eight years, and yet he's given credit for ending the depression. Didn't happen. World War II ended it. The new deal didn't work.

This is new, new deal. It doesn't work. If it works, it will be the first time that it works, but it never has, and I don't think this is going to be the record breaker.
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"Oh, yes, the industrialized countries are all failed, and the USA is a comparative tower of strength and economic contentment. At least, that is what you tell yourself over and over."
Those cartoons running in your head are making you fabricate again, Dave.

Maybe instead of making up lies about what I believe, you might just ask what I believe? But that would be too honest for you, and would not serve your agenda.
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LIMBAUGH: If he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan, but if he's going to do FDR, if he's going to do the new, new deal all over which we will call here the raw deal, why would I want him to succeed?
Just thought I'd add that emphasis.
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Why in the world should Obama debate that fat, druggie windbag?
Well, now that I think about it they have a lot in common . . . except Obama is skinny.
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sh:Because socialism always fails in the end. The sooner Obama's socialist programs collapse, the better. If that kind of pain it what it takes for the nation to understand why socialism sucks, then let it happen now so we can get through it and move on all the sooner.
Don't stop there. We need Bushs', Clinton's, Carter's etc. to collapse too. We have had a mostly socialist government for some time. It is the interference of government that allowed the recession, not the other way around. Lots of institutions need to fail so we can reboot and try some capitalism for a while.
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"Don't stop there. We need Bushs', Clinton's, Carter's etc. to collapse too. We have had a mostly socialist government for some time. It is the interference of government that allowed the recession, not the other way around. Lots of institutions need to fail so we can reboot and try some capitalism for a while."
Agreed. Bush's Medicare prescription drug bennie was the biggest entitlement program since LBJ's 'Great Society' welfare state travesty. It grossly bloated government spending on healthcare. Previous Presidents all had their socialist pet project as well. We are locked into a two-party system that delivers bigger government and more spending with every election, no matter which side wins. The looters keep pretending, even with the present demographic trends, that it is all perfectly sustainable. A 'blue screen of death', followed by a reboot is indeed in order.
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