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Old 04-30-2009, 08:54 AM   #1
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Default Homemade Hand Sanitizer

http://heart-of-my-home.blogspot.com...sanitizer.html

Homemade Hand Sanitizer
I love the portability of hand sanitizer. I don't love the price it can cost! Courtesy of Focus on the Family magazine, I now have this recipe to make my own:

1 c. aloe vera gel
1 t. rubbing alcohol
2 t. glycerin
8 drops of tea tree oil or a favorite scent

I am putting mine in small squeeze bottles. I may try making a big batch and putting it in an old ketchup bottle so I always have some on hand.

****Please note that this recipe contains Tea Tree oil as well as Alcohol, both of which kill "bugs". When making your own, feel free to adjust the amounts of germ killers!****
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:06 AM   #2
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Why not 20/80 bleach and water and just use lotion afterwards?
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:22 PM   #3
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I would think that using even a dilute bleach solution on your skin several times a day would really screw up your skin.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:16 PM   #4
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I must be very allergic to bleach. If just a little gets on my skin, it gets very raw, cracks and bleeds and takes a week or so to heal. Plus I can taste it for almost 24 hours, after just getting a little, even diluted, on my skin.

No way I can even consider using bleach on living tissue around here! On bedding and other such inanimate washable objects, fine. But not on skin for me or mine.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:57 PM   #5
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Just a driveby thought from someone who knows nothing about hand sanitizers:

One lousy teaspoon of alcohol in a cup of aloe gel? I know the TTO will add something but the alcohol : other stuff ratio doesn't sound great enough to truly sanitize. Is it?
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:26 PM   #6
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American Society for Microbiology
February 19, 2006

Adding white vinegar to diluted household bleach greatly increases the disinfecting power of the solution, making it strong enough to kill even bacterial spores. Researchers from MicroChem Lab, Inc. in Euless, Texas, report their findings today at the 2006 ASM Biodefense Research Meeting.
Sodium hypochlorite (NaOCl) in the form of laundry bleach is available in most households. The concentrate is about 5.25 to 6 percent NaOCl, and the pH value is about 12. Sodium hypochlorite is stable for many months at this high alkaline pH value.

"Laundry bleach is commonly diluted about 10 to 25-fold with tap water to about 2000 to 5000 parts per million of free available chlorine for use as an environmental surface disinfectant, without regard to the pH value of the diluted bleach. However, the pH value is very important for the antimicrobial effectiveness of bleach," says Norman Miner, a researcher on the study.

At alkaline pH values of about 8.5 or higher, more than 90 percent of the bleach is in the form of the chlorite ion (OCl-), which is relatively ineffective antimicrobially. At acidic pH values of about 6.8 or lower, more than 80 percent of the bleach is in the form of hypochlorite (HOCl). HOCl is about 80 to 200 times more antimicrobial than OCl-

"Bleach is a much more effective antimicrobial chemical at an acidic pH value than at the alkaline Ph value at which bleach is manufactured and stored. A small amount of household vinegar is sufficient to lower the pH of bleach to an acidic range," says Miner.

Miner and his colleagues compared the ability of alkaline (pH 11) and acidified (pH 6) bleach dilutions to disinfect surfaces contaminated with dried bacterial spores, considered the most resistant to disinfectants of all microbes. The alkaline dilution was practically ineffective, killing all of the spores on only 2.5 percent of the surfaces after 20 minutes. During the same time period the acidified solution killed all of the spores on all of the surfaces.

"Diluted bleach at an alkaline pH is a relatively poor disinfectant, but acidified diluted bleach will virtually kill anything in 10 to 20 minutes," says Miner. "In the event of an emergency involving Bacillus anthracis spores contaminating such environmental surfaces as counter tops, desk and table tops, and floors, for example, virtually every household has a sporicidal sterilant available in the form of diluted, acidified bleach."

Miner recommends first diluting one cup of household bleach in one gallon of water and then adding one cup of white vinegar.

Pdf and doc files can be found at www.asm.org.

Other statements by Miner on the website also mention the combinations effectiveness on flu virus.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:06 PM   #7
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I thought vinegar...um...what the heck is that word?.....stops bleach from working.

I am having a serious menopausal moment.

I keep a bottle of vinegar at work next to the bleach to use on my hands and clothes if I splash bleach on them.

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I first heard about the mixture when NPR interviewed Dr. Miner. He said they test every sanitizing product sold to the public and the acidized bleach mixture performs better than all of them in killing bacteria and viruses.

The mixture only works for about 12-24 hours though. Mix what you need at the same ratio. There is a bit of a clorine release if you spray it, so lots of ventilation should be used. Big sprayer means more clorine so be careful. I open the bathroom window and put a big fan in door.
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Thanks dyrt and thanks for the idea, ren. I agree that the amount of alcohol seemed very low. I did a quick search and came up with this site (and there were some other interesting ideas there, also. I think you could use rubbing alcohol, instead of the vodka. The proportions just made more sense to me (but thanks for even getting me on that path, because it never would have crossed my mind!)

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Basic Hand Sanitizer
makes 4 oz.

1/4 cup aloe vera gel
1/4 cup Everclear grain alcohol (100 proof vodka will also work)
10 drops fragrance oil - optional
1 drop food coloring - optional

Combine ingredients and stir. Store in a spray pump bottle. Will last indefinitely.
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