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Old 10-28-2009, 09:39 PM   #1
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Red face The Second Wave - both of them

Well it's here... the Second Wave & when I say 'both of them', I'm not kidding. We have the wave of illness itself as well as the wave of press & public reaction & coverage... loads of it.

Feeling overwhelmed yet?

Here's a little bit of completely unsolicited advice from Auntie Sue...

DON'T TRY & KEEP UP.

Seriously, don't even THINK of trying to keep up with all the press coverage at this point. I popped down to the convenience store this afternoon to grab a soda, (yeah the expensive way to do it but I didn't have time to walk a mile through pouring rain to the grocery store!), & while waiting in the line to pay, glanced at the news rack. Seems there's only one story in Canada today - pH1N1. Pick your poison... outbreaks here, there & everywhere. Schools reporting high absence rates. First person stories of "My survival experience with flu". A few sad stories about the two dead kids these last few days. Long line ups at vax clinics. Editorials scolding us for being socially irresponsible if we don't get a vax.

Now I came home at the end of my work day & refreshed the 4 online news sites I've got tabbed - almost all flu, mirroring the paper versions I saw at the store. I sighed.. a long night orf reading ahead. Then I smartened up. The headlines pretty much said it all & as this wave expands, there will be more of the same.

Frankly, for most of us right now, what's important about flu news is what affects us PERSONALLY. If you're planning on a vaccine, you need to know location & hours of clinics, estimated waiting times & any other aspect that may bhe important. You need to know the status of your childrens' schools - are they open? Lots of flu? Services & stores you use, usual activities... aree they open, operating as usual?

Other than that, no need to frantically try to keep up... right now. I can tell you what headlines will consist of for the next several weeks: growing case numbers, more severe cases in hospital & sadly, more deaths. School closures & activities being shut down. Progress of flu vax clinics including the inevitable cockups that will happen - they always do.

What is important to track are CHANGES. Are cases presenting with increasingly severe symptoms including some of the more spectaculatr symptoms we saw in 1918? Is the death RATE increasing? Are the affected cohorts changing? Secondaries - VERY important & we WILL be seeing more of those crop up. Strep, staph, other bacteria & I expect at any time, meningitis & encephalitis cases to start being reported. It is these things that anyone who's yet to experience flu needs to really watch for.

And a reminder, if I may. Anyone on Rx meds right now who MAY be running a tad low - you might want to call in for a renewal or try to get in to see your practitioner if you have to for the class under which your med or meds fall under. This wave will only get worse & don't forget, seasonal flu won't disappear & we're rapidly approaching the time when that makes inroads. And unpleasant as it is, norovirus will soon begin ropping up. I expect less of it this year though - we're all maniacally washing our hands & that usually cuts transmission of gastric viruses big time.

It's important to do what a local doctor said in our paper today. Take sensible precautions but don't bring your normal lives to a screeching halt if there's no assessed need to do so in your family & circumstances. Work, play, laugh & LIVE. We've only got the one guaranteed life that we're living now & by times, it can be miserable enough. In spite of economic downturns, pandemic & life's other issues that ALWAYS crop up, there;s room for enjoyment too & no need to feel guilty about sharing a laugh with family & friends.

A healthy balance is our sanest prep.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:42 AM   #2
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I came to the same conclusion, I am NOT worrying about what is happening worldwide ONLY what is happening on my doorstep and things that I can control.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:20 AM   #3
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:26 AM   #4
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I wish... you CAN get the flu twice. I even have my doubts about immunity for those born before 1957. That's a LONG time ago.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:30 AM   #5
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That's a LONG time ago.


We should find out soon, but I haven't heard of people getting sick in the local nursing homes. And they're usually full of whatever is going through the schools, shortly after the kids are sick.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:11 AM   #6
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I'm with you Sue....

The stress felt trying to keep up to whats going on is harmful to your health.

Today, I'm baking Halloween cookies and muffins etc for what I anticipate to be a busy weekend. I'm going to cook up a few meals and pop them into the fridge, for a busy weekend or........ in case we all get sick.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:58 AM   #7
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I feel that all of us here are prepared, others that we see that didn't educate themselves on pandemics are in a state of panic right now. This isn't new to us, we knew it was coming so we are more or less calmly taking care of business and taking steps to avoid H1N1.

Yes we still have our moments of panic but not as much as we would have otherwise had we been not informed thanks to great places like This Blue Marble and great people like Canada Sue and all the other amazing helpful friends here.

So many parents right now who didn't prepare or educate themselves and would have laughed at us months ago are rushing to emerg and in a full state of panic! I understand their panic, this is hitting them all at once, this will cause so much confusion and worry for all parents & people in general, especially the parents/people that didn't prepare.

This will be a hard lesson for them to learn, preparing does not mean panic, panic means that you are not prepared!

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Old 10-29-2009, 12:37 PM   #8
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I've been busy caring for my family (the well and unwell) so I haven't been able to read as much as I have been. At some point, there just won't be time to take it all in, I hit that this week.

One thing that struck me though, is that the daily total compiled over at PFI was 70 deaths reported yesterday. We had a 50 death day a couple of days ago. The deaths seem to be shooting upward--is this a change, or the result of widespread infection?

Also, as I mentioned on the personal thread, my son was diagnosed with a secondary strep infection, so I have first hand experience that this is happening.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:38 PM   #9
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would have laughed at us months ago
Oh, they did..... didn't they.... Those are the same ones calling me every night for advice. I had a woman I havent spoken to in 2 years call me 2 nights ago asking my advice. HUH!

And for you lurkers, I was more then happy to help her out. Don't be afraid to ask for help.

As prepared as I am...I am still running around doing last minute things, making sure the laundry is kept up daily, meals are in the fridge and freezer, that I have an abundance of our daily comforts ready.

Heck....I'm almost finished Christmas shopping.
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As prepared as I am...I am still running around doing last minute things, making sure the laundry is kept up daily, meals are in the fridge and freezer, that I have an abundance of our daily comforts ready.
Same here. We learn that the hard way, don't we?

The flu hits hard and fast. When you realize you have it, or someone in your care has it, there will be NO TIME to "get ready". Get ready now and stay ready: clean house, dishes and laundry done as soon as possible, meals and drinks prepared or very easy to prepare, OTC meds at the bedside, bills all paid up to date, alternate arrangements for pets, and you have a LOT less to deal with when you're sidelined for a week or so.
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:08 PM   #11
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I have also put together several "flu kits" of flu remedies, easy to eat foods, etc. that I can grab and drop off to unprepared family members that may end up with the flu.
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The flu hits hard and fast. When you realize you have it, or someone in your care has it, there will be NO TIME to "get ready".

I could go drop sick right now for a couple of weeks and my family would have everything they need and then some.

My name is Amberglass and I have OCD. j/k...a little bit.
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Google FluTrends has pointed to a move of the "WAVE" north to canada..,

Interesting how people's internet browsing trends track the disease.

Does this mean that the U.S. (Southern parts anyway..,) are getting a break in the epidemic? That is hard to tell. Could it be that people are browsing less now that the "Second Wave" is really here?

Like Sue said, "don't even try to keep up."

Maybe that's whats going on in the google flutrends. Maybe folks in our south ae not on the internet but dealing with the "real life" aspects of a pandemic??

http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en_us/
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Glad you are using NewsNow Samen!

That is one of the most excellent news feeds I know of. It's the first place I stop every time I browse.
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