Van der Sloot suspected in another murder

[Kassy]

Another snippet from the case: He confessed to the murder. They went to the room together, he went to get a drink (? or something else) and when he returned she was peeking into his laptop where there was some info on Natalee Holloway.

No link as i heard it on the radio or from someone.

It's interesting because i've been wondering about the motive or reason for the murder. There's no evidence for sexual assault.

If she'd been loaded with cash it would've been robbery but she had like a 1000 dollars to buy a laptop. So it might have been hers but this sounds like it's his laptop. Now what kind of info would there be if he killed for it? Or maybe it was a fit of rage?

[Kassy]

Originally Posted by Mama Alanna

Much of the "civilized" world shudders in horror at the forthright way Texas handles murderers, Cao. They believe that you can reason with a rabid dog, and thereby rehabilitate him. And above all, you shouldn't punish him. Society is to blame for his illness. He just made poor choices when he bit all those people, y'know?

Actually the problem is diagnosis. A rabid dog is easy to recognize & should be put down.

With people it's more complicated. The typical pattern killers...it's safe to fry them. But then there are more complicated cases. And there are many cases where evidence isn't that clear or turns out to be fabricated later. You can't turn back a death penalty.

I'd be pleased if they let the worst murderers here sit out the 20 years or 20 years minus good behavior. It probably sounds weird to Texans but it does allow for more time to contemplate the deeds done.

Anyway, that's more of a general topic.

[Sysiphus]

Personally, I feel spending the rest of one's life in prison is worse than the death penalty. But if it is only 20 years, I am not so sure about that one. He will be out when he is 46, maybe even earlier.

[Kassy]

Seems he flew to Peru after getting some FBI money 15 or 25k. This one says 25 most other headlines 15.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...96-504083.html

20 years in a Peruvian jail will wear him down and it's much better then jail time in the Netherlands. Somewhere in OTB there is a story about people breaking into a jail to steal TV's (nice flatscreens). That was dutch jail.

[D. Gale]

Originally Posted by Sysiphus

Personally, I feel spending the rest of one's life in prison is worse than the death penalty. But if it is only 20 years, I am not so sure about that one. He will be out when he is 46, maybe even earlier.

I agree completely, but for some a life in prison is better than what they have on the outside. I'd agree more with with prison for life if it was like Shawshank or the French prison described by Frank Abagnale in his book rather than the country club vacation some of the seem to be.

[Ought Six]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/08...ove-sea-level/

His sentence would be anything but a "country club vacation".

[rc]

I wonder if he has family who is willing to send him a few bucks from time to time. From the article:

Prisoners with money had access to cell phones, illegal drugs and meals prepared outside the prison. Conditions were poor to extremely harsh in facilities for prisoners who lacked funds,"

[Cliffs]

Hope this arrogant prick gets one of these...

Conditions are especially harsh in the country's maximum security prisons, which are extremely isolated geographically.

One of them, the Challapalca Prison, is in the Andes near the Bolivian border, at an altitude of 15,000 feet above sea level, about 211 kilometers from the nearest city of Puno - a six-hour ride down a dirt road, depending on conditions, according to a 2003 report on the facility by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights.

There is no regular electricity or running water, and temperatures most of the year hover around 33 degrees Fahrenheit in the day and as low as 4 degrees below zero at night, the report said

[Kassy]

Last i heard he wanted to bargain. He would reveal the place of Natalee Holloways body if he was transferred to Aruba. Same old trick but it won't work here.

Challapalca Prison sounds like a good place for him.

[Kassy]

Originally Posted by rc

I wonder if he has family who is willing to send him a few bucks from time to time. From the article:

He'll automatically get a small allowance from the dutch state for such thing. He still has his mother so she might send some too (or maybe not, i don't know how many family money he already pokered away and what their standing is).

[Potemkin]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100613/...ZGVyc2xvb3R 0

Van der Sloot told Chile police thief killed woman
AP


By FRANKLIN BRICENO, Associated Press Writer Franklin Briceno, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 2 mins ago

LIMA, Peru – Joran van der Sloot told police in Chile that it was an unidentified robber who beat a young woman to death in his hotel room, a killing for which the Dutchman has been charged with murder in Peru.

Peruvian police say Van der Sloot, long suspected in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, has confessed to killing 21-year-old business student Stephany Flores on May 30 after they met playing poker.

But according to a Chilean police report obtained by The Associated Press through Peruvian authorities late Saturday, Van der Sloot gave a different account of events while in custody in neighboring Chile, where he was captured after the killing and quickly extradited.

[ob1]

Joran's mama should be bitch slapped for raising such a spoiled gutless lying heathen of a son.Justice would serve him well to rot away in a Peruvian prison.In my humble opinion of course.

[caonacl]

So...any opinions about what makes him so enraged that we kills the young women he sleeps with?

[rb.]

My guess is sociopath.

[Mayerling]

Originally Posted by caonacl

So...any opinions about what makes him so enraged that we kills the young women he sleeps with?

Did he indeed sleep with the Flores girl?

[Ought Six]

He says he got pissed at one point and gave her a full elbow shot to the face, breaking her nose. There was so much blood he was supposedly scared she would go to the police, so he decided that strangling her to death on the spot was the smart thing to do. I am not sure of his exact pathology, but there is definitely something broken in that guy's head.

[caonacl]

Originally Posted by Mayerling

Did he indeed sleep with the Flores girl?

That's a good question. Was she undressed?

If she was not undressed, it could be construed as premeditation versus a crime of passion.

[LvDemWings]

Originally Posted by caonacl

That's a good question. Was she undressed?

If she was not undressed, it could be construed as premeditation versus a crime of passion.

It could be abuse of a corpse and probably a whole host of sexually related charges or rape and then murder.

[ob1]

I'm not sure what authorities are saying now, but initially it was reported that there was no sign of sexual abuse.Whatever they meant by that.

[occupant]

My gut feeling is telling me that if they were up at 5;00am, they were stoned on an upper. The Flores gal was on her period, and so the maggot Joren wanted a BJ. She didn't want to, her injuries are consistant with force for that. His knee to her nose,her knees were injured, etc.I wonder how much HE was checked over for scratches or other evidence. Prolly not much. Sad situation. Hope the P.O.S. rots in that prison.

[Mayerling]

Originally Posted by occupant

My gut feeling is telling me that if they were up at 5;00am, they were stoned on an upper. The Flores gal was on her period, and so the maggot Joren wanted a BJ. She didn't want to, her injuries are consistant with force for that. His knee to her nose,her knees were injured, etc.I wonder how much HE was checked over for scratches or other evidence. Prolly not much. Sad situation. Hope the P.O.S. rots in that prison.

Is this speculation on your part or is this what happened? Haven't seen any of this in the news.

[rb.]

Originally Posted by occupant

My gut feeling is telling me

Mayerling, I think this answers your question.

Nice to see you again, by the way.

[Mayerling]

Originally Posted by rb.

Mayerling, I think this answers your question.

Nice to see you again, by the way.

Thanks, RB
Yes, i did note that gut reaction thing, but then there was so many details ( ie; Ms Flores having her period) that i thought that some were indeed facts.

[Ought Six]

http://abcnews.go.com/News/judge-pro...ry?id=15346993

Natalee Holloway Is Dead, Judge Decides

[Kassy]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ian-woman.html

Joran van der Sloot has been sentenced to 28 years for the Flores murder. It's starts.
Let's see if he appeals.