| Alternative and Survival Medicine Investigations and discussion into health systems, practices, and products that are not considered part of conventional medicine. |
 |
|
09-08-2010, 07:16 PM
|
#26
|
|
SuperModerator
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: In my gardens or online
Posts: 21,222
Thanks: 367
Thanked 1,161 Times in 806 Posts
|
Remiron is what I'm taking. I had 3-4 days of terminal sleepiness & feeling like I was in a complete fog. That all went away & even that odd 'cold drop of water' feeling is happening less & less.
We can report odd side effects directly to Health Canada here - I did.
__________________
Don't die a virgin. Terrorists up there are waiting for you.
|
|
|
09-18-2010, 03:07 PM
|
#27
|
|
Omne ignotum pro magnifico
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,987
Thanks: 46
Thanked 785 Times in 546 Posts
|
Must .... back....away.....from.....keyboard...
__________________
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety. Benjamin Franklin
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
|
|
|
09-18-2010, 10:13 PM
|
#28
|
|
Member Level 5
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 811
Thanks: 4
Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts
|
My wife started taking them after I read about those enzymes here in these columns. She felt great with them, told me she didn't feel "full" after a meal, and she is convinced she lost weight. We don't have a scale in the house, strongly prohibited by my so-called submissive wife.
Ter
|
|
|
09-29-2010, 07:26 AM
|
#29
|
|
Member Level 5
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 811
Thanks: 4
Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts
|
It is now official : my wife not only feels good but lost weight, visibly and measurable. Five pounds gone, in two months. She stopped going to the gym around the time she started taking the enzymes.
An American friend brought four vials of 240 pills each so we will last some time.
Question : should I also take them ? I avoid every extra pill since I started taking warfarin and I have two BP medicines also.
Ter
|
|
|
09-29-2010, 08:00 AM
|
#30
|
|
fumbling around in the dark
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 17,625
Thanks: 683
Thanked 1,642 Times in 1,057 Posts
|
Why not? I think my experience was very unusual... and most likely due to an allergic reaction.
|
|
|
09-29-2010, 06:52 PM
|
#31
|
|
Wingy Spud
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,268
Thanks: 3
Thanked 197 Times in 146 Posts
|
I gave them a try and have been able to eat foods that used to send my heart burn into overdrive. I have been able to enjoy things like bananas, steaks with steamed onions, popcorn, chocolate, peanut butter and raw tomatoes all without needing an acid reducer or feeling uncomfortable. It is so cool that food isn't the enemy like it was.
__________________
Friendship is like peeing your pants - everyone can see it, but only you can feel its warmth.
My city smells like Cheerios.
|
|
|
09-29-2010, 07:01 PM
|
#32
|
|
Beach Fun
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,409
Thanks: 207
Thanked 145 Times in 128 Posts
|
Quote:
|
warfarin and I have two BP medicines also.
|
I do think you need to do some research first.
__________________
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
The only way to win is to not play...(like global thermal nuclear war).
|
|
|
09-29-2010, 08:47 PM
|
#33
|
|
Dismember
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,164
Thanks: 172
Thanked 389 Times in 325 Posts
|
T:
Quote:
|
"Question : should I also take them ? I avoid every extra pill since I started taking warfarin and I have two BP medicines also."
|
Ask your doctor, but I am confident they will say "no problem!" As LDW said, they help you deal with stuff you cannot digest well anymore. I have a lot of trouble with bacon cheeseburgers if I do not take digestive enzymes right before eating them. With the enzymes, I can deal with them just fine. And I really like a good bacon cheesebuger.
__________________
* I have the right to live, thus I have the right to defend my life from attackers who would take it from me.
* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 05:52 PM
|
#34
|
|
Wingy Spud
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,268
Thanks: 3
Thanked 197 Times in 146 Posts
|
A test for these little pills... sloppy joes and tater tots.
__________________
Friendship is like peeing your pants - everyone can see it, but only you can feel its warmth.
My city smells like Cheerios.
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 06:05 PM
|
#35
|
|
4ster
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,964
Thanks: 101
Thanked 73 Times in 55 Posts
|
I've been using them too, sporadically (not a great pill popper here). Today's test was leftovers of a spicy hot sausage, onion, pepper sauce in a lavash wrap with provolone. I give two thumbs up, no burps!
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 06:16 PM
|
#36
|
|
4ster
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,964
Thanks: 101
Thanked 73 Times in 55 Posts
|
A better test for me would be underripe banana... those will usually leave me doubled over in stomach pain for a couple hours.
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 06:23 PM
|
#37
|
|
fumbling around in the dark
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 17,625
Thanks: 683
Thanked 1,642 Times in 1,057 Posts
|
I can eat anything without digestive problems. Except, apparently, enzyme pills. lol
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 07:59 PM
|
#38
|
|
Wingy Spud
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,268
Thanks: 3
Thanked 197 Times in 146 Posts
|
No heartburn from the sloppy joes and tater tots. I can't bring myself to try the ultimate test... apple juice. Someone try it for me and see if it works.
__________________
Friendship is like peeing your pants - everyone can see it, but only you can feel its warmth.
My city smells like Cheerios.
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 08:48 PM
|
#39
|
|
4ster
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,964
Thanks: 101
Thanked 73 Times in 55 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LvDemWings
No heartburn from the sloppy joes and tater tots. I can't bring myself to try the ultimate test... apple juice. Someone try it for me and see if it works. 
|
 same with me and yellow nanners
|
|
|
09-30-2010, 10:04 PM
|
#40
|
|
Member Level 5
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 811
Thanks: 4
Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts
|
Thanks, guys !
I started taking them yesterday and I feel "light" after meals. I have skipped dinners a couple of times recently because I felt full from lunch at dinner time.
Also : I need to lose twenty pounds. Giving up smoking (thirteen months ago, yeah) has produced a "spare tyre" around my waist.
Ter
|
|
|
10-03-2010, 03:10 PM
|
#41
|
|
Beach Fun
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,409
Thanks: 207
Thanked 145 Times in 128 Posts
|
__________________
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
The only way to win is to not play...(like global thermal nuclear war).
|
|
|
10-03-2010, 06:54 PM
|
#42
|
|
fumbling around in the dark
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 17,625
Thanks: 683
Thanked 1,642 Times in 1,057 Posts
|
sandyd, I took these:
__________________
Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined. ~ Patrick Henry
|
|
|
10-03-2010, 07:14 PM
|
#43
|
|
Beach Fun
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,409
Thanks: 207
Thanked 145 Times in 128 Posts
|
Compare the ingredients to what BG said they were taking....which is what I think my link goes to
__________________
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
The only way to win is to not play...(like global thermal nuclear war).
|
|
|
10-03-2010, 10:54 PM
|
#44
|
|
Dismember
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,164
Thanks: 172
Thanked 389 Times in 325 Posts
|
The better enzyme blends contain HCL and ox bile. It sounds awful, but those are the ones that work best. Surprisingly, though they contain HCL (hydrochloric acid), they actually help people with GIRD. It seems counterintuitive, but the presence of the acid not only helps digest the food, it also prevents your natural 'acid pumps' in your stomach from turning on and going into overdrive, giving you heartburn. Another thing to look for is papain, a natural enzyme found in papaya and pineapple. It is the active ingredient in meat tenderizer, and helps break down difficult to digest foods.
I use Now Foods Super Enzymes. I prefer the tablets to the capsules, as they are easier to swallow. Now makes a very high quality product.
http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/M003112.htm
__________________
* I have the right to live, thus I have the right to defend my life from attackers who would take it from me.
* I have the right to my private property, thus I have the right to defend my property from thieves who would take it from me.
* I have the right to self-determination, thus I have the right to defend my liberty from tyrants who would take it from me.
* The only usable tools for these tasks are guns, and thus I have the right to shoot anyone who would take my guns from me.
|
|
|
10-05-2010, 03:07 AM
|
#45
|
|
Senior Level 5
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 7,357
Thanks: 149
Thanked 465 Times in 306 Posts
|
06 recommends ..
Quote:
|
The better enzyme blends contain HCL and ox bile.
|
Extract ....
Quote:
There are reasons for suspecting that bile or bile derivatives
may have a role in the genesis of cancer.
|
http://www.jstor.org/pss/4583010
Bile acids in experimental colorectal cancer .
Quote:
"Bile acids probably promote colorectal carcinogenisis by stimulating
mucosal hyperplasia but only in the peresnece of faeces "
|
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...01538-0014.pdf
Extract
Quote:
|
Unfortunately some bile acids are apparently capable of damaging the cells that line the digestive tract. So far the evidence that bile acids are involved in colon cancer is largely circumstantial, but it is accepted that bile acids could promote the cancer initiation process. Thus, a supplement of ox bile should only be taken with a meal, and the amount used should be carefully regulated even if you need to divide pills into halves or quarters, in order to avoid discomfort such as diarrhea.
|
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...d=oid%3A306914
__________________
All paper is a short position on gold.
“Gold is money. Everything else is credit.”
.
Last edited by Ross; 10-05-2010 at 06:01 AM.
|
|
|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:32 AM.
|