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Old 09-08-2010, 07:16 PM   #26
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Remiron is what I'm taking. I had 3-4 days of terminal sleepiness & feeling like I was in a complete fog. That all went away & even that odd 'cold drop of water' feeling is happening less & less.

We can report odd side effects directly to Health Canada here - I did.
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Old 09-18-2010, 03:07 PM   #27
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:13 PM   #28
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My wife started taking them after I read about those enzymes here in these columns. She felt great with them, told me she didn't feel "full" after a meal, and she is convinced she lost weight. We don't have a scale in the house, strongly prohibited by my so-called submissive wife.

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:26 AM   #29
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It is now official : my wife not only feels good but lost weight, visibly and measurable. Five pounds gone, in two months. She stopped going to the gym around the time she started taking the enzymes.

An American friend brought four vials of 240 pills each so we will last some time.

Question : should I also take them ? I avoid every extra pill since I started taking warfarin and I have two BP medicines also.

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Old 09-29-2010, 08:00 AM   #30
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Why not? I think my experience was very unusual... and most likely due to an allergic reaction.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:52 PM   #31
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I gave them a try and have been able to eat foods that used to send my heart burn into overdrive. I have been able to enjoy things like bananas, steaks with steamed onions, popcorn, chocolate, peanut butter and raw tomatoes all without needing an acid reducer or feeling uncomfortable. It is so cool that food isn't the enemy like it was.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:01 PM   #32
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warfarin and I have two BP medicines also.
I do think you need to do some research first.
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:47 PM   #33
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Ask your doctor, but I am confident they will say "no problem!" As LDW said, they help you deal with stuff you cannot digest well anymore. I have a lot of trouble with bacon cheeseburgers if I do not take digestive enzymes right before eating them. With the enzymes, I can deal with them just fine. And I really like a good bacon cheesebuger.
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A test for these little pills... sloppy joes and tater tots.
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I've been using them too, sporadically (not a great pill popper here). Today's test was leftovers of a spicy hot sausage, onion, pepper sauce in a lavash wrap with provolone. I give two thumbs up, no burps!
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A better test for me would be underripe banana... those will usually leave me doubled over in stomach pain for a couple hours.
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I can eat anything without digestive problems. Except, apparently, enzyme pills. lol
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No heartburn from the sloppy joes and tater tots. I can't bring myself to try the ultimate test... apple juice. Someone try it for me and see if it works.
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No heartburn from the sloppy joes and tater tots. I can't bring myself to try the ultimate test... apple juice. Someone try it for me and see if it works.
same with me and yellow nanners
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Thanks, guys !

I started taking them yesterday and I feel "light" after meals. I have skipped dinners a couple of times recently because I felt full from lunch at dinner time.

Also : I need to lose twenty pounds. Giving up smoking (thirteen months ago, yeah) has produced a "spare tyre" around my waist.

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FB: were you taking these?

http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1111/
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sandyd, I took these:

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Compare the ingredients to what BG said they were taking....which is what I think my link goes to
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The better enzyme blends contain HCL and ox bile. It sounds awful, but those are the ones that work best. Surprisingly, though they contain HCL (hydrochloric acid), they actually help people with GIRD. It seems counterintuitive, but the presence of the acid not only helps digest the food, it also prevents your natural 'acid pumps' in your stomach from turning on and going into overdrive, giving you heartburn. Another thing to look for is papain, a natural enzyme found in papaya and pineapple. It is the active ingredient in meat tenderizer, and helps break down difficult to digest foods.

I use Now Foods Super Enzymes. I prefer the tablets to the capsules, as they are easier to swallow. Now makes a very high quality product.



http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/M003112.htm
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The better enzyme blends contain HCL and ox bile.
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There are reasons for suspecting that bile or bile derivatives
may have a role in the genesis of cancer.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/4583010

Bile acids in experimental colorectal cancer .
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"Bile acids probably promote colorectal carcinogenisis by stimulating
mucosal hyperplasia but only in the peresnece of faeces "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...01538-0014.pdf


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Unfortunately some bile acids are apparently capable of damaging the cells that line the digestive tract. So far the evidence that bile acids are involved in colon cancer is largely circumstantial, but it is accepted that bile acids could promote the cancer initiation process. Thus, a supplement of ox bile should only be taken with a meal, and the amount used should be carefully regulated even if you need to divide pills into halves or quarters, in order to avoid discomfort such as diarrhea.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...d=oid%3A306914
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Back when taking digestive enzymes for weight loss was talked about here, I gave them a try. I was eating a standard diet, nothing special. I took the enzymes before meals, but didn't lose weight with them, so I stopped.

These days I have switched to the Wahls Program. I had fasted before doing so, so that it would be easier to get off the carbs. Dr. Wahls recommends digestive enzymes before meals, but I sort of wrote it off as B.S. at first. The whole time I was having problems with diarrhea. This is a problem that I encountered coming off fasting, and increasingly with everything that I ate or drank, except water. I mean, it was so bad that I could hardly leave the house anymore, or had to eat only one meal in the evening when I could plan some serious toilet time. I couldn't even have my morning coffee without out kicking off a round of toilet time.

By chance, I happened to talk with a friend about digestive enzymes, the Wahls Program, etc. I decided to give them another try. I took one capsule about 15 min. before my morning coffee, and 15 min. before any meal or snack. It has been 4 days now that I have had no diarrhea, just as regular as anyone could wish for. I thought I had really messed up my gut with pain pills or something. I had diagnosed myself with IBS mentally. The whole juggling of meals, toilets and pain was making me really depressed. It never even occurred to me that digestive enzymes could even help with my problem. I had just been aiming for general better health by trying them. I thought I was going to have to go back to a standard diet and no fasting because of the problem, and now it's gone!
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Maybe try a different brand.

We use Udo`s Digestive Enzyme Blend. Can be found at most health stores.
http://udoerasmus.com/products/digestive_enzymes_en.htm

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Maybe try a different brand.

We use Udo`s Digestive Enzyme Blend. Can be found at most health stores.
http://udoerasmus.com/products/digestive_enzymes_en.htm
The enzymes didn't cause the problem for me, but solved it. It had been a long time problem.
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