US warns of 'dangerous' heat-wave

Auburn Boy · 07-23-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rb.

However...if you look at the heatwaves over the last hundred years, or so, you should take migration patterns into account. With those migration patterns come larger cities, therefore larger heat islands. A heatwave in the 1930s for many(rural) wouldn't reach the temps the cities did, as there was little around to hold the heat, allowing it to build day after day. Forget global warming and carbon emissions...maybe it's all the fault of we urban dwellers, with our concrete and asphalt.

Heat Islands: Anthropogenic effect.

penguinzee · 07-23-2011, 12:55 AM

I'm going up there next weekend, it looks like it's going to break by then (I hope!)...

Was just talking with my g/f, who had spoken with her family back in Oklahoma-they've had 51 days straight with 100+ degree temps... while it's pretty normal to have some 100+ days out there, it is unusual to have such a long string of them, and long before the traditional "dog days"... some bad whama-jama going on out there, and all through the US and Canada...

Franc (penguinzee)

rb. · 07-23-2011, 01:11 AM

Hey...it's better than snow.

Feather · 07-23-2011, 01:39 AM

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Hey...it's better than snow.

Yep! And it's so much cheaper for me to cool my house than to heat it.

lilly · 07-23-2011, 10:36 AM

Went to Borders for their first sale day of their closeing. Not that great but people were buying as if it was more than mostly 10% off. I bought a tape at 20% off.

Because there were so many people in the store it was muggy inside as well as out. Bought my DVD and left to get some Chinese takeout. Manilla clams, crabs and shrimp. Walking from the car to the restaurant I was sweating. Then I took it to the mall thinking I'de eat it in the food court and get a cold drink and some ice cream, and the elevator was broken. No way was I going to climb three stories, or park outside, so took it home.

Even with the airconditioning on all day the second floor of the house was unbearably humid. I was covered with sweat all nite long. And used baby wipes to wipe myself down a few times during the nite. Tomorrow will sleep closer to an airconditioning vent..

Drinking loads of water since I'm pouring sweat.

I don't think the money counts when you could end up with heat stroke.

I didn't dare look at the indoor thermometers. It is the humidity index, not the heat as much. Hotter than a sauna at full tilt.

Ought Six · 07-23-2011, 12:17 PM

That is one good thing about my window A/C unit; it has a 'dehumidify' setting.

CanadaSue · 07-23-2011, 12:21 PM

Far more tolerable today...'only' 95 with the Humidex & it doesn't feel that horrible. Maybe I'm getting used to it.

It was very unusual for me to lie down 'for a few minutes' yesterday around eight & not wake until well after one. When I went back to bed, I didn't think I wuld but I certainly did. And after morning chores, I'm going back to bed again for a bit before shopping. I've lost the heat headache & queasiness I had & after sleeping, actually feel like I've gotten proper rest.

We'll have a reasonable low tonight & a bit of relatively cooler weather before the temps/humidty go up again.

An odd thing last night. When I woke up shortly before two, it started raining, a steady rain that lasted about two hours & came out of nowhere. We had a 0% possibility of rain according to all forecasts. After the dreadful news out of Norway, it was as though even the skies were weeping.

Ought Six · 07-23-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Auburn Boy

And I'm not the only one thinking Rush Limbaugh is a bit on the crazy side.

So, the heat wave is a government conspiracy? The "heat index" is a tool of the left to hype global warming..,

Limbaugh: The Killer 116° Heat Index Is ‘Manufactured By The Government’

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/...he-government/

I was listening to Limbaugh the other day when he ranted this rant..,

Read the article, you may see my point. (Or maybe you won't. I'll flip a coin..,)

Getting an 'accurate portrayal' of Limbaugh from ThinkProgress.org is like getting an 'accurate portrayal' of the theory of evolution from a rabid creationist.

Limbaugh is engaging in his usual silly, over the top rhetoric about liberals and government, which is why I do not listen to him. But he is again quite correct in saying that reporting the heat index as the actual temp is flagrantly dishonest and quite bizarre. i personally think that the media tends to hype and exaggerate for the sake of drama most of the time, so I doubt this was some kind of global warming conspiracy. But Limbaugh is yet again correct in saying that it is 'from the government'. Once the National Weather Service began regularly reporting the heat index, all other weathermen and weather outlets followed their lead.

As for the records, the historical temp records do not go back that far. The heat island effect in cities has been made far worse by tens or hundreds of thousands of aid conditioners pumping out heat into the atmosphere. This makes new records a certainly. Also, getting a record temp on any given day is not that odd, considering there are several months of summer days. I believe that these are records *for that day*, not all-time high temp records.

LvDemWings · 07-24-2011, 08:31 AM

The local weather guy says the heat wave has broken in my area but while the temp may be down the humidity is way up. 75F/24C with 90% humidity and not a puff of air movement doesn't feel very cool.

CanadaSue · 07-24-2011, 08:50 AM

Hang in there - it broke overnight here for real. Currently a LOVELY 68 degrees - wind out of the northeast & the world feels a lot more fresh. We're still running the fans to blow hot, stale air out of here before it warms up again. Looks like we have rain coming... at last.

LvDemWings · 07-24-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadaSue

Hang in there - it broke overnight here for real. Currently a LOVELY 68 degrees - wind out of the northeast & the world feels a lot more fresh. We're still running the fans to blow hot, stale air out of here before it warms up again. Looks like we have rain coming... at last.

Your cool front just don't seem to want to sink south. Metro Detroit is 79F/26C with humidity at 79%. We didn't get any of the rain unless there were a few sprinkles overnight. Metro Buffalo hasn't had any rain since July 6. I hope some of the farms planted jersey beefsteak tomatoes. They love this hot humid stuff.

rootdiggr · 07-24-2011, 09:59 AM

Well, we did get a TERRIFIC storm last night that cooled things down for a while. Not enough to turn off my bedroom AC, but enough to allow the temp in my room to reach 75. Been running in the low to mid 80s in my bedroom. Today is supposed to be almost as bad as the last few, but then a few days of high 80s-low 90s. I will take it at this point. Maybe I can even sneak in a night of sleeping with the window open. My sinuses and I would be most grateful.

lilly · 07-24-2011, 01:07 PM

Passed Borders at 10:30 and a stupid crowd waiting for it to open. Hey folks most of the things are 10% off. Idiotic.

Sweat poured off me all nite. I couldn't read because my reading glasses fogged up.

No evening storms to chill down the temps. Maybe today. If it rained while I slept the ground ate it up because there was no sign of rain outside.

Feather · 07-25-2011, 02:55 AM

We are finally cooling a bit. It's 77* with 80% humidity, the Weather Channel says the combo feels like 77* but with a dew point of 71* it's still a bit muggy.

CanadaSue · 07-25-2011, 10:19 AM

IT BROKE!

At some point during the night, I woke up to a gentle COOL spray of rain drops coming through the window & wetting my head & pillow. Right now it's cloudy, spitting & 64 degrees.

Loving it.

rb. · 07-25-2011, 01:14 PM

I wish it would rain here. Short of an explosive night a week ago, we haven't had rain for a loooong time. The fires up this way are baaad this year, and I fear my district is next.

Mama Alanna · 07-25-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rb.

However...if you look at the heatwaves over the last hundred years, or so, you should take migration patterns into account. With those migration patterns come larger cities, therefore larger heat islands. A heatwave in the 1930s for many(rural) wouldn't reach the temps the cities did, as there was little around to hold the heat, allowing it to build day after day. Forget global warming and carbon emissions...maybe it's all the fault of we urban dwellers, with our concrete and asphalt.

I read a theory some years ago that it is largely the fault of the air conditioner.

Ever stand on the wrong side of the AC? Feel the hot air blowing out? All that hot air can't be good for the heat patterns of the developed world, when it's multiplied by millions...

rootdiggr · 07-25-2011, 10:14 PM

Thunderstorms here right now. It feels great. Leaving "Hades in July" and going back to "Virginia in July". Hot, hazy and humid, but not brutal. I will take it.

Susan4 · 07-25-2011, 10:42 PM

Um yeah, we're still soaking in it here

Blech. 84* 69% feels like 90*. Almost ten pm. Upper 90's rest of the week. Come on any old hurricane and blow this crap outta here.

Central air is sooooo much better than sliced bread

Feather · 07-25-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Susan4

Um yeah, we're still soaking in it here

Blech. 84* 69% feels like 90*. Almost ten pm. Upper 90's rest of the week. Come on any old hurricane and blow this crap outta here.

Central air is sooooo much better than sliced bread

We have pretty much the same here. Maybe cooler towards the weekend with temps in the high 80's.