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Old 09-28-2011, 06:34 PM   #1
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Arrow Iranian pastor to be executed for refusing to renounce his Xn faith

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09...ristian-faith/
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:14 PM   #2
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Now the Iranian court that sentenced the pastor to death is claiming he is guilty of 'security crimes', not apostasy. No mention whatsoever was made of 'security crimes' at any court hearings up until this point.
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Praying for him and his family.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:13 PM   #4
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Now the Iranians are claiming he will be executed for 'rape and extortion'.
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Sounds like a great system - they'll nail you on a 'charge of convenience' then execute you for the crime of the day.
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They did just that with a dutch/Iranian woman last year. I fear Youcef Nadarkhani won't survive this.
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Sounds like a great system - they'll nail you on a 'charge of convenience' then execute you for the crime of the day.
And the judges are clerics. It is like the Inquisition.
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And the judges are clerics. It is like the Inquisition.

Yes indeed it is.

I wish that we had liberated their country instead of Iraq.
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Yes indeed it is.

I wish that we had liberated their country instead of Iraq.
Yes.

I've known a lot of younger Iranians and the vast majority very much appreciated western culture and values
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Yes indeed it is.

I wish that we had liberated their country instead of Iraq.

Ironic since they liberated their country from the Shah, Western influence and Oil companies.

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Yes.

I've known a lot of younger Iranians and the vast majority very much appreciated western culture and values
This is a good reason to stay away from them.

I know many Iranians. They come to tto the west for education. Before the Shah fell the US, less now, but still go to the west.

They see the lifestyle which is free and that the US isn't the "Great Satan".

They can't help but to chaff under the religious government and rules when they go back home.

Did we forget all of the internal riots earlier this year? Mostly young, educated students.The religious police and the people who did NOT attend a university tended to be on the other side.

Then, they have a fairly free Internet. Remember they used social media to organize and to distribute video of the government violent reaction.

They are going too "self liberate" within our lifetimes. No need to go in.

Iranians are a fairly independent people. They don't want Iran to be seen as a lapdog of the US and West again.

If the US or the west went in that would just turn the young moderates against the West and give the religious government a lever to keep power.
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Retrial Ordered for Iranian Pastor Facing Death Sentence for Christian Beliefs
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