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Old 03-23-2012, 08:46 PM   #1
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Default The GOP War on Women video

These women, members of Move On, made a video on comments made by prominent members of the Republican party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfN...layer_embedded

After you watch this video, check out the one to the right at the top of the list, the War on Women: Extended Cut. That one really takes the cake!

Good ole Ann Coulter is quoted as saying that if the vote could just be taken away from women, we'd never have to worry about another Democratic President. Ever!!!

Good Grief! Just how far does the Republican Party intend to take the issue of women's rights? Why is it even an issue now, so long after many of us thought this was a battle fought and won, once and for all. Now, here is comes again, but with even more intolerable restrictions than we had before.

Women should have to convince her employer that she needs birth control for medical matters and not just birth control??? There sees to be an alarming number of Republications who feel this is a reasonable way to handle things, in order to assure employers that they aren't financing something (birth control) that they have religious objections to??? What about the right of a woman to have her medical issues, no matter what they are, perfectly private from her employer?

Viagra is to be a covered prescription medication, as it is right now, but not birth control for women? That isn't discrimination? A question that hasn't even been asked, much less answered is: Will men also be expected to go to their boss and explain that he has ED and so needs this medication in order to "function normally?"

I think it likely that the answer to that question is resounding "NO!" The reason being that I know of no religion that counsels men to calmly accept the loss of sexual ability as a natural part of this marvelous blessing from God known as Life and Living. But that exactly what it is - a natural stage of life for all men aside from the very few exceptions??

Santorum makes no bones about his belief that when conception occurs as a result of rape women should accept that horrific result as a marvelous gift from God. He tells us to accept and protect that precious miracle of the gift of new life. He believes we should make the best of a bad situation and get on with living, while carrying that new life to term and give birth.

Does all the above sound a bit uneven to you?
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Yep, those of the far right are dopes at best and American taliban at worst.

Extremists of all sorts should be avoided.
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So you think a MoveOn.org propaganda video is an accurate, balanced portrayal of Repub views on women? My God, you really are that gullible!


Next you will post a video from North Korea explaining 'the truth about America'.
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It raises serious issues but essentially IS a propaganda video. Something similar - with different issues - could be put together using some of the more egregious utterings of prominent Democrats.
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I like to know since when birth control was a medical issue and why the birth controlee and her SO expect everyone but them to pay for it.
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I would think that's up to individual employers and their insurance companies. Personally, I would see it as a bonus - hell, it's not expensive to begin with.
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I would think that's up to individual employers and their insurance companies. Personally, I would see it as a bonus - hell, it's not expensive to begin with.
The 30-year old reproductive rights advocate coed law student, Ms. Fluke, was testifying in front of the Dem fake 'congressional hearing' that birth control must be 'free' for all women (to hell with the men, I guess). She wants it to be made one of the mandated things that all insurance plans are required to provide under Obamacare. That would include the 'Medicare for all' taxpayer-subsidized option.
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Most insurance that covers prescriptions does just that. Just because a certain drug is against a persons religious beliefs is no reason to not cover it.

The insurance companies cover it. You buy the policy, you get the coverage.
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Most insurance that covers prescriptions does just that. Just because a certain drug is against a persons religious beliefs is no reason to not cover it.

The insurance companies cover it. You buy the policy, you get the coverage.
Not true. You at least pay a copay for the pill. Ms. Fluke demanded that all birth control be totally free; no copays. And along with the pill, the morning after pill, IUDs, diaphragms and what have you, she also wanted free condoms.
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It raises serious issues but essentially IS a propaganda video.
Of course it's a propaganda piece but you're right, it raises serious issues. The religious right are dangerous to everyone's freedoms, not just women's.
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Let's think about this:

which event has a bigger impact on an individual's life and on society as a whole?

an unwanted unplanned for and unable to finance pregnancy? a pregnancy that threatens the life of an (already) mother?

not always being able to get it up for sex?

Viagra--medically necessary

BC pills--a luxury

Hmmmmmmm.
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I like to know since when birth control was a medical issue and why the birth controlee and her SO expect everyone but them to pay for it.
Birth control pills can be perscribed for medical reasons. I was told getting pregnate again could kill me so I went on them, then I had my tubes tied and was still on BC pills because of multiple problems. It got to the point it was either add more BC pills or have a hystorectomy. I went wth the surgery.

If it was up to a company that doesn't believe in BC at all I would not have been able to afford the surgeries.
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Birth control pills can be perscribed for medical reasons. I was told getting pregnate again could kill me so I went on them, then I had my tubes tied and was still on BC pills because of multiple problems. It got to the point it was either add more BC pills or have a hystorectomy. I went wth the surgery.

If it was up to a company that doesn't believe in BC at all I would not have been able to afford the surgeries.
*All* insurance plans provide birth control when it is a medical necessity. That has always been the case, thus that is a non-issue. This about about free birth control for recreational sex.
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Good ole Ann Coulter is quoted as saying that if the vote could just be taken away from women, we'd never have to worry about another Democratic President. Ever!!!
I can't speak to the rest of your post, but she's pretty clearly right about this. Women (as a group, I must emphasize, I'm not indicting the intellect of any one person) are nature's communists. Yes, I stole that line.

Coulter is honest. That really bothers people.
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Is she now?

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."
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"There is a growing body of evidence that radiation in excess of what the government says are the minimum amounts we should be exposed to are actually good for you and reduce cases of cancer." -Ann Coulter, on fears over the fallout from Japan's nuclear crisis, Bill O'Reilly interview, March 18, 2011

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much." -on 9/11 widows who have been critical of the Bush administration

''I'm more of a man than any liberal.''
—Ann Coulter

''Marriage is not a civil right. You're not black.''
—Ann Coulter, arguing in front of a group of gay conservatives that the 14th Amendment only applies to African-Americans and that it does not, in fact, apply to women, LGBT people, or other minorities, Sept. 26, 2010

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Oh yes.....brilliant, honest, charming....a real American Treasure...
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''I'm more of a man than any liberal.''—Ann Coulter
Gotta love it.

I didn't say she was always right, by the way; I said she was honest. Honest people sometimes say things that offend others, and people trying to make a strong point can be particularly offensive. Kinda like putting barfing smilies in one's posts, know what I mean?
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Personally I liked this one ......

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night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.''
Pure unabashed arrogance .


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Birth control pills can be perscribed for medical reasons. I was told getting pregnate again could kill me so I went on them, then I had my tubes tied and was still on BC pills because of multiple problems. It got to the point it was either add more BC pills or have a hystorectomy. I went wth the surgery.

If it was up to a company that doesn't believe in BC at all I would not have been able to afford the surgeries.
I am aware of that. But birth control alone is the goal of nearly all birth control.
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I am aware of that. But birth control alone is the goal of nearly all birth control.
Just wanted to make sure you knew both sides.TKS
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I don't think AC believes even half of what she is saying. She is a showboating attention whore. She has said a few things that have sent me right to the edge and I wouldn't wipe a floor with her dead carcass. Barf is too good for her. So is fresh steaming shit. YMMV.
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You . . . can't . . . handle . . . the truth!

Goodness, such language. Pushed a few buttons, did she? You do realize that's the whole point?
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Some more interesting legislation in the GOP WOW.

Kansas to Pregnant Women: "A Little Lie from Your Doctor Won't Hurt You"
Posted by Jennifer Dalven, Reproductive Freedom Project at 12:54pm

It's what every pregnant woman I know dreads. Going into that big ultrasound, having the ultrasound tech, who had been so chatty, suddenly go silent. Having her do sweep after sweep across your belly without saying another word, until finally, she gets up and solemnly says, "I am going to get the doctor."

As far as pregnancy nightmares go, I thought that was one of the worst. But now politicians in Kansas are giving pregnant women and their partners something new to worry about. Buried in a sweeping anti-abortion bill is a provision that would immunize a doctor who discovers that a baby will be born with a devastating condition and deliberately withholds that information from his patient. That's right. If the bill passes, a doctor who opposes abortion could decide to lie about the results of your blood tests, your ultrasound, your cvs or your amnio. Lie to you so that you won't have information that might lead you to decide to end your pregnancy or that might lead you to learn more about your child's condition so that you are prepared to be the best parent you can be to your child.

Now, I have been working for a long time defending the right of a pregnant woman to make the best decision for herself and her family, whether that is continuing the pregnancy, adoption, or abortion, based on full, accurate information. I thought I had seen just about every manner of government intrusion into those fundamentally personal and private decisions. I thought I was past the point of being shocked and outraged. But as a mother who has been through those ultrasounds myself, the thought that my doctor could choose to withhold this information from me and take this decision away from me and my husband ... well, let's just say it really touched a nerve.

And, unfortunately, it's not just Kansas. Other states motivated by anti-abortion zeal are jumping on the it's-ok-for-doctors-to lie-to-their-patients-to-prevent-them-from-having-an-abortion bandwagon. Oklahoma recently passed a similar law. And, the Arizona legislature is considering a similar bill.

More at :
http://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductiv...-wont-hurt-you

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Use Birth Control? You're Fired!
Posted by Jennifer Dalven, Reproductive Freedom Project at 6:36pm

First, a bill that gives immunity to doctors who lie to couples about the results of their prenatal tests in order to prevent them from getting an abortion. Now, a bill that would give your boss the green light to fire you for using birth control. You think I am kidding? I wish. For a decade now, Arizona insurance companies have been required to provide coverage for contraception just like other prescriptions. But, because they saw an opening to score some political points, some politicians there are suddenly moving to take that coverage away from women and their families.

And we aren’t talking here just about exemptions for religiously affiliated employers like Catholic hospitals and universities. We are talking about authorizing secular, for-profit employers to deny a woman coverage for birth control if the employer doesn’t believe that she and her partner should be allowed to have sex without getting pregnant. Yup, that’s right. If the owner of the Taco Bell where you work opposes birth control, Arizona legislators want to give him a legal right to deny you insurance coverage for your pills.

Sadly, that isn’t even the half of it. You may want to sit down for this one. Arizona legislators know that whether or not her insurance covers it, a woman may get the prescription she needs to prevent an unintended pregnancy. They want to give her boss the right to control that too. The bill they are pushing would not only allow employers to take the insurance coverage away, but it would also make it easier for an employer who finds out that his employee uses birth control to fire her. You heard me right . . . to fire her. And I thought Rush Limbaugh’s comments were as low as you could go on this one.

More here:
http://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductiv...ol-youre-fired

And you are reassuring yourself that legislation this outrageous would never make it to law---The Arizona bill has, incredibly, already passed one house.
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This is a pretty standard disinformation tactic. You can take any large group and find some extremists within it (in this case some Kansas state legislators), then use isolated examples of stupidity by those extremists to fraudulently try to paint the entire group as extreme. After all, we know that this 'GOP war on women' is the entire Republican Party out to get the fairer sex, right?

To use the same methodology as the blog piece above, I would list some of the nuttery by people like Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, or Jesse Jackson, or Howard Dean, and use it to paint the entire Democratic Party as uberleftwing nutcases. But that would be extremely dishonest.
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After all, we know that this 'GOP war on women' is the entire Republican Party out to get the fairer sex, right?
Well, I didn't think so for the longest time, but as time goes on and we keep hearing about more and more and more of these laws and proposed laws against women, it's getting harder to believe this isn't a party wide movement. We sure aren't hearing form ~any~ Republicans who disagree, are we?

And I'm really stunned by the three running for president. These idiots are the best the Republican Party can find to go up against Obama? If so, God help the Party - that's the only help they can expect.

Santorum makes it very plain he doesn't approve of abortions or birth control. Women should have every baby she can conceive, after marriage of course.

Romney clearly hasn't a single clue about how birth control works, is in favor of passing a Federal law that personhood dates from the time of conception, there by making birth control pills and devices illegal.

Gingrich? Let me count the ways he's not qualified to be President. And can you imagine the First Lady being a woman who carried on a 6 year affair, as his mistress, while he was married to another woman? Wow! That is certainly a role we want our daughters to aspire to, isn't it? His character is what we want our sons to copy too, right?

So where are all these silent Republicans who aren't in favor of war on women? And why on earth are they being silent in the first place?
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Some of those rare extremists happen to be running for President or voting on these laws in the State leges. So I don't care how rare they are, if they are in any position of power to make laws that only apply to women, a gender I belong to and claim, unlike Ann Coulter, I sit straight up and watch very closely.

And if the genders were reversed, all you poor discriminated against males would be howling about how unfair it was. Use your imagination and you can figure out how it might feel and how you might be screaming about it.

This isn't abstract political theory. It is happening to women, only women, and it seems to be men who are doing it. If there is a rare bird in the GOP it would be the female legislator. There, there's your tangential point to run with.
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