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Old 10-26-2012, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default WTF? CIA Operators were denied requests for help DURING Benghazi attack

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-sources-say//
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This is looking more and more like an assassination of the ambassador... and Glen Beck thinks he knows why:

"Glenn Beck explains with names and faces that Ambassador Stevens was the point man for Obama to funnel arms to the Libya rebels first to take out Gaddafi, and now from Libya to Syria – through Turkey – to take out Assad. "

http://www.therightscoop.com/must-wa...bya-and-syria/

btw, do you know who Obama appointed to "investigate"? None other than Thomas Pickering, friend of CAIR and the people behind the Cordoba Center - the NY Mosque in the building damaged by the terrorist attack on the WTC on 911.
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This gets worse & worse....

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“This week, President Obama has been campaigning on trust. But Benghazi and the cover-up that followed bear directly on the question of trust. Can President Obama be trusted to safeguard our rights and protect our people and interests? Benghazi tells us that he cannot be trusted to protect Americans and American interests, and he cannot be trusted to safeguard our basic, Constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms of speech and religion. He cannot even be trusted to tell the truth when the truth is obvious to everyone outside his administration and campaign. Though it happened on the other side of the world, the Benghazi attack is a character issue for Barack Obama now.”
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26...-policy-issue/

A reminder: not only did they cover it up...the Obama administration tried to blame and smear his opponent for instigating it by making an entirely appropriate remark about the response to the Egyptian riots. AND stomped on the 1st Amendment, by arresting and smearing a filmmaker, who’s conveniently in jail and who won’t have a court hearing until after election day.
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Excellent read, fr. Here's another PJMedia take on the situation - Scott Ott, Bill Whittle, and Steven Green discuss Obama's role, whether the right would have the same degree of outrage if it was a Republican President who arranged weapons to al Qaeda, and whether or not Obama should be impeached.

One of the most heart wrenching comments was Whittle stating this picture showed the injured men were DRAGGED out of the building while still alive, and they were tortured and murdered while Obama went to bed, and then got up in the morning and went to a fund raiser.



What an appalling lack of compassion and dereliction of duty by our President.

The full video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=un6wet538Wo#!

According to the father of one of the Marines that was killed, Hillary Clinton promised the filmmaker will be prosecuted. They are STILL blaming this on a lame YouTube video! This is overt lying. The cat is out of the bag and they want us to not to believe our lying eyes but listen to what they are saying.

Personally, I think a LOT of heads should roll for this - forget impeachment. Obama and Clinton should be tried for treason, and Panetta relieved of his command unless proven he was under direct order of the Commander in Chief not to intervene.
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Personally, I think a LOT of heads should roll for this - forget impeachment. Obama and Clinton should be tried for treason, and Panetta relieved of his command unless proven he was under direct order of the Commander in Chief not to intervene.
Not gonna happen. This president is truly the Teflon President.
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I dunno, rb., He may not be able to wiggle out of this one. People died and he is lying, and lying, and lying...
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I dunno, rb., He may not be able to wiggle out of this one. People died and he is lying, and lying, and lying...
The senseless loss of life..........

The shameless way this administration had lied from the beginning on this...

The way obama has tried to throw anyone and everyone he can, under the bus....

The way this yet again, shows everything except attending fund raisers, accepting unearned and undeserving awards and accolades - are all above his pay grade......

This should all weigh heavy on his soul, save that as a narcissist, he lacks the ability to feel for anyone other than himself and as a sociopath he lacks the ability to accept responsibility for his actions or their consequences...

He, his cronies and his entire administration will go down in history as the most corrupt, most dishonest, most devious, most treasonous, in history.
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Holy Crap! There was an AC-130U gunship on the scene in Benghazi - and Obama refused to let it fire!

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26...o-let-it-fire/

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The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
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A gutsy call Obama was afraid to make.

Instead, he went to bed, and then on to a campaign fundraiser in Vegas.

Campaigner in Chief.
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Bye Bye Barry.......
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Bye Bye Barry.......
If Bush had been in office and had made this same decision.... his testicles would have been on public display at the Smithsonian with free admission to all visitors by now.
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Fox News has done some outstanding investigative reporting on Benghazigate, especially Jennifer Griffen.

O's enablers in the MSM will probably cover his ass til Nov 6. But maybe someone will break on this one...the scent of a hot story to a honest reporter (are there any?) is like the scent of a coed in heat to a fratboy.

The only MSMer I remotely trust is Jake Tapper ol ABC.
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Jake Tapper has a Twitter feed, and he just tweeted THIS COMMENT:

Jake TapperVerified ‏@jaketapper

CIA spox: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate.


https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...36225106132993

According to Bill Krystol at the Weekly Standard, the CIA spokesman was presumably speaking on behalf of Gen. Petraeus... which means Petraeus just threw Obama under the bus:

"So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. "

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...us_657896.html

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Copied this from Facebook... a lot of VERY angry people out there.

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Could it be that the President and his men had decided to keep
everything "controlled" just prior to his election . No black swans allowed.

Therefore no gunship , no extra men , no hasty decisions ,
everything must be kept small and low key ???

Play it safe , do nothing .

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Copied this from Facebook... a lot of VERY angry people out there.


This is the sort of tragedy that happens when men and women of honor, courage and integrity, have an amoral, cowardly, self serving, pretentious poser in the White House who has no understanding of honor or sacrifice.
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MSM coming onboard?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/repo...i-were-denied/
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And now from our 'secret source'"

WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: Emergency All Call At Obama White House

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Significant activity from Ruemmler’s office over the last 24.

In this situation there will likely be 1 of 2 responses from WH.





-Highly controlled briefing response. Attempt explanation, then hope story gets buried over weekend and race to election day.

-Announced resignation of someone inside administration. President apologizes for mistakes by some in his administration. That deal could be under negotiation at this very moment.

Second scenario not as likely. Not yet. But the Ruemmler activity makes me believe there’s more damaging information out there to the administration on Benghazi than has already come out today. They are trying to assess what will and will not get out to determine response. To have a potential scandal of this magnitude so close to an election is unprecedented. Priority for them will be to insulate the president. Got to try and cut that off. Get someone inside go public and point the finger at Obama.

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“Within minutes of the first bullet being fired, the White House knew these heroes would be slaughtered if immediate air support was denied,” said Ty Woods’ father, Charles. “In less than an hour, the perimeters could have been secured, and American lives could have been saved. After seven hours fighting numerically superior forces, my son’s life was sacrificed because of the White House’s decision.”

Why would Obama and Biden do such a thing? Because to launch a military operation against an al-Qaida affiliate on the anniversary of 9/11 would have exposed the hollowness of their boast through convention week and the days thereafter – that Osama was dead, and al-Qaida was finished. And so Ty Woods, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith and Chris Stevens were left to die, and a decision taken to blame an entirely irrelevant video and, as Secretary Clinton threatened, “have that person arrested.” And, in the weeks that followed, the government of the United States lied to its own citizens as thoroughly and energetically as any totalitarian state, complete with the midnight knock-on-the-door from not-so-secret policemen sent to haul the designated fall guy into custody.

This goes far beyond the instinctive secretiveness to which even democratic governments are prone. The Obama administration created a wholly fictional storyline, and devoted its full resources to maintaining it. I understand why Mitt Romney chose not to pursue this line of argument in the final debate. The voters who will determine this election are those who voted for Obama four years ago and this time round either switch to the other fellow or sit on their hands. In electoral terms, it’s probably prudent of Mitt not to rub their faces in their 2008 votes. Nevertheless, when the president and other prominent officials stand by as four Americans die and then abuse their sacrifice as contemptuously as this administration did, decency requires that they be voted out of office as an act of urgent political hygiene.
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When Hillary Clinton took the blame for this, I felt she should have immediately turned in her resignation. Now that the entire story is coming out, the entire administration needs to turn in their resignations. The actions of the current administration in this matter are reprehensible. I've never been a huge fan of Obama's policies, but I've always respected the Office of the Presidency and extended that respect to our current President. Now I am not so sure. Why would an entire administration refuse to help our Ambassador? Why would they aid the Libyan "Rebels" by refusing to send in troops that were readily available? Why would they side with al-Qaida terrorists over their own citizens? And if Obama and Clinton sided with al-Qaida terrorists, what does that make them?
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Looks like Obama boxed himself in with his lies about Benghazi:

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Earlier today Barack Obama told Denver’s WUSA TV this in regard to the Benghazi 9-11 terror attack,

“I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened to make sure it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.”

Tonight however, Bing West, a former Assistant Secretary of Defense, told Greta Van Susteren,

“If that actually happened the way President Obama said it happened, there’s a paper trail and I think people reasonably enough can say, “Can we see the order?” because hundreds of others supposedly saw this order.

Obama just got caught. He lied about his securing our personnel in Benghazi. And now the world will know about it.

There was no order to protect our men on the ground.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...r-trail-video/
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