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Old 03-05-2017, 09:46 AM   #1
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Default Chinese troops appear to be operating in Afghanistan

Working with Afghan forces
http://www.militarytimes.com/article...ps-afghanistan
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The Rod is rubbing its hands together saying "oh please, oh please."
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I am not seeing a problem with this.

They are a sovereign nation, the Afghanis can build relationships with anyone they want. By increasing their relationships it build resiliency and forther moves them into international politics.

PLUS, and a big plus, if the Chinese are operating in Afghanistan it requires building agreements and MOUs between the Afghani, US, and Chinese forces to preclude **ahen** "unfortunate incidents". This build relationships between the field commanders and State Departments (of all the countries) and that is never a bad thing.

The Chinese and Afghanis have a common border and issue. Radical Muslims inhabit the Wakhan Corridor (Afghanistan) and traverse it to get to China.

The Chinese have blocked the border checkpoints and regular people in the corridor cannot get supplies to even sustain themselves. (Very hard to get supplies from the west from the rest of Afghanistan.)

See "Stones into Schools" by Mortenson.
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If I remember correctly, didn't China buy the mineral right to a huge section of the country?
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Lots of minerals, coal, oil (in the north) natural gas, copper, etc. in Afghanistan. Yeah, they share a border, all 41 miles of it. They are getting some of their troops some combat experience in an area they may later fight in. Kind of like giving a burglar a guided tour of your home, complete with a working knowledge of how your security works.

Any body wanna take bets on how Russia will react to the idea of a China-Stan on their border? With a ton of natural resources to fuel an economy?

No way in hell the dragon is gonna leave after he has his claw in the tent. This could get really FxxKie. Can't think of a better word for storm that may be brewing.
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The Rod is rubbing its hands together saying "oh please, oh please."
Damned Autocorrupt! That should be the DOD as in the Department of Defense.

Go ahead, China. Grab yourself a big handful of that Tar Baby like the rest of us did.
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Not surprised. China has much more national interest in Afghanistan than the US does. As mentioned above, Afghanistan is a sovereign, if screwed up country, and can engage in international relations as they see fit. They are an obvious resource base for China, and the Chinese will probably be much more adept at an interests-based approach to dealing with the Afghans than we are. China will focus on what they want, work to suit that goal, and won't unnecessarily meddle beyond what they feel is necessary. It's economic soft-colonialism, and was probably inevitable.
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China really doesn't want an uncontrolled flow of goods and people through the Wakhan Corridor, which connects greater Afghanistan with China. They regard it as a potential arms and personnel supply route for the Uighur rebels. So, now that there is a bit of an opening in Afghanistan (due to the US pullback) they are going to do what they think is necessary to control that area.

The Wakhan Corridor was historically a "buffer" between the Russian Empire and British India. I don't think it serves that strategic function anymore, but it remains a potential flash point because it is nestled at the intersection of Russian, Chinese, Pakistani/Indian and Iranian/Turkish spheres of influence in Central Asia. The collapse of the USSR followed by the US war in Afghanistan provided an interruption (or at least a distraction) from the struggle among those parties for control of the area. But, now that the US is disengaging, I would expect it to begin again in earnest.
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I am of the belief that Afghanistan will be a chronic headache for any nation that involves itself there, including China.

In their case however they don't really have a lot of choice. They're next door neighbors and they've got a troublesome Islamic minority they've been struggling with for decades. I wish them the joy of it.
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