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Old 02-23-2012, 03:41 PM   #26
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You do know how the Scientific Method works, right?

You proposed a theory how the process works. If it the person proposing the theory to support it.

It isn't the respondents job to prove the negative.

The Scientific Method for Chlorine dioxide is called free radical electrophilic abstraction -electron attracting.


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Surrender Your Electrons
http://phaelosopher.com/2007/09/09/n...ful-chemistry/

When a chlorine dioxide ion contacts a harmful pathogen, it instantly rips up to five electrons from the pathogen, in what can be likened to a microscopic explosion… harmless to us, but terminal for pathogens.

The pathogen – an electron donor – is rendered harmless due to the involuntary surrendering of its electrons to the chlorine dioxide – an electron acceptor – and the resulting release of energy. Oxidized by the chlorine ion, the former pathogen becomes a harmless salt.

This process benefits a body that has become toxic.

Throughout the body, anywhere chlorine dioxide ions – transported via red blood cells – come in contact with pathogens, the pathogens give up their electrons and cease to exist. The chlorine dioxide armed cells only “detonate” on contact with pathogens, which include harmful bacteria, viruses, toxins, heavy metals, and parasites. All of these will have pH values that are out of the body’s range of good health. They will also have a positive ionic charge. The chlorine dioxide equipped cells do not oxidize beneficial bacteria, or healthy cells, as their pH levels are 7 or above, and hold a negative ion charge.

Chlorine dioxide ions will oxidize – meaning vaporize – diseased cells… anything that is acidic, with a positive ion charge.

[2010 UPDATE]

Jim Humble continued learning about chlorine dioxide, and understandings have evolved. One misunderstanding was that it acts on anything that is anaerobic by way of the negative/positive charge dynamics. He learned that there is another factor, referred to as Oxidation Potential, which is the measure of a chemical’s ability to gain, or lose electrons. Oxidation potential (also referred to as redox potential) of a given element is expressed in volts. For chlorine dioxide, that value is .95 volts. Anything that has a lower voltage than .95 will give up to 5 electrons to the chlorine dioxide molecule on contact.

By way of comparison, chlorine dioxide has a milder oxidation effect than hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), which has an oxidation potential of 1.78 and collects 2 electrons, or Ozone (O3) whose oxidation potential is 2.07, and only collects 2 electrons. [Source: Lenntech Water Treatment Systems http://www.lenntech.com/processes/di...ne-dioxide.htm ]
A healthy human cell has a natural electrical of just over 1 volt, which means that it would be unaffected by chlorine dioxide, yet, it has been long known that extended use of hydrogen peroxide or ozone is damaging to healthy cells and tissue. Yet, they are used widely today.

If the chlorine dioxide ions encounter no pathogens or other poisons, it deteriorates into table salt and in some instances, hypochlorous acid, which the body can also use.

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Looks like "The MMS Store" is back in business with a new website.

The 3 people supposedly affected by a reaction, was it an intense Herxheimer or was it explosive diaherra
. These would be 2 symptoms telling that you are rushing the detox process. You body is telling you to slow the detox process down.

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Herxheimer and other reactions

Signs That MMS is Working

*** But That You Have Overdosed ***

Activated MMS (chlorine dioxide) kills pathogens on contact. It also breaks up molecular compounds such as heavy metal compounds in the body. As soon as you swallow your MMS dose, it starts to work on clearing the bad stuff out of your system.

Healthy people can generally take MMS without nausea -- it is only people sick with some kind of disease who will get nauseous when taking it. However, nausea is a good indication that the MMS drops are working.
The immune system attacks unhealthy conditions using MMS. There has never been any evidence of an attack on healthy cells, but if one supplies the immune system with extra MMS, it appears to attack unhealthy conditions more vigorously. It’s what the body needs, but a nauseous reaction sometimes occurs and occasionally someone will vomit. This simply indicates that the dose was too large.

Signs that MMS is working are:
• Diarrhea
• Stomach ache
• Fatigue
• Vomiting
• Nausea

All these conditions are temporary. They tell you that the body has more dead
pathogens or disintegrating toxins than it can quickly handle. In other words, it has been overdosed. So reduce your next MMS dose to allow your body to catch up with you. If these conditions are too severe to tolerate, you should stop taking MMS until they’re gone. Then resume at a lower dose. It’s a process of learning what your body can handle.
When a person is very sick, start with a half-drop dose or less. Wait a couple of hours and increase the dose if the first one didn’t make him nauseous. Back off for a while if he shows signs of feeling sicker.
• A sick person should receive a dose of some strength every hour during the day for at least 8 hours, but they should be small doses. If bad nausea persists, take as little as a quarter of a drop an hour. It’s OK to stop until nausea is gone, but a small amount of nausea may continue for some time. Do not let a tiny bit of nausea stop you. Only stop if it gets to be irritating.
• Normally, very little nausea or diarrhea is noticed, but it does happen.

What Causes the Nausea?

Nausea is part of what is called the Herxheimer reaction – also called “detox illness”. It is caused by dying pathogens dumping poison into the system. A normal healthy person notices absolutely nothing from taking a great deal more than 3 drops of MMS an The more health problems you have, the more likely you will be to notice nausea, and perhaps also vomiting, diarrhea and/or severe fatigue.
MMS is killing cancer viruses and other pathogens faster than your elimination system can clear the blood and make the debris exit. So-called “dirty blood” can cause headaches as well as nausea. Any other diseases being killed that are present in your body will also be releasing poisons and the body must carry those poisons off.
Everyone differs in the efficiency of their elimination systems, and in the heavy toxic load they have been carrying that may have caused the cancer or other diseases.
Therefore no one can state that nausea will occur on day two or day ten. When overloaded with debris in the blood, you must slow down the doses of both MMS1 and MMS2, allowing the blood to clear. Gradually this nausea barrier will fade away.

When we first learned about the effectiveness of citric acid, I measured the strength of the solution. The chlorine dioxide present measured much higher than when vinegar, or lime or lemon juices were used, but people seemed to handle it better. Thus, I decided to determine what a reasonably healthy body could tolerate by taking it myself. I started low and built up to 30 drops twice a day. I never felt any nausea or other negative reactions. Therefore, we know (based on the reports of hundreds of people other than myself) that as long as there is nothing to be killed, destroyed, or neutralized, one can expect no reaction from an MMS dose.

Sometimes, even sick people do not experience nausea when taking MMS; however, do not be surprised if someone does get sick, become nauseous, develop diarrhea, or even vomit after taking a few drops of MMS. To help minimize these reactions, try to take (or give) it a half to one hour after a small meal. MMS allows the immune system to correct various conditions in the body, thereby creating substances that the body must expel. This is normal. However, if you always start with 1 or 2 drops it is unlikely that you will make anyone nauseous.

Dealing With the Nausea

After the MMS doses have been reduced or temporarily stopped, there are some ways in which you can help the nausea dissipate:
• Drink some cold water
• Drink some juice
• Eat a bite or two of something
• Add a rounded teaspoon of baking soda to a glass of water and drink it
• Take some Alka-Seltzer

Apples Are Effective

Apples are an important anti-nausea tool. They often stop the nausea and will be the best way to stop nausea for many people. Eat one apple about 15 minutes before taking MMS. Do that for three or four or five hourly doses and just continue with the protocol.
You can grind the apple into apple sauce with a food grinder of one kind or another, but always use fresh apples as they absorb the poisons more efficiently than day-old apple sauce. It should be eaten immediately after grinding.

In general, a sick person will begin to feel better within 24 hours. Just don’t give up on MMS. Reduce the number of drops per dose until the person is not experiencing nausea. You may have to reduce down to a quarter of a drop an hour. Then start increasing the drops with each dose as long as the person does not become nauseous. If you have to go to a quarter or half drop for a long time to prevent nausea, that is OK, but you may then need to extend your protocol an extra week or so.

Diarrhea and Vomiting

If you take MMS in any quantity, you may get diarrhea. Not everyone gets it, but some people need to be cleaned out. If that is true in your case, you will probably not be able to avoid diarrhea. It seems that the body knows what is needed when MMS is taken. As the immune system becomes more active, more things begin to take place in the body. There are things that your body does not want your digestive system to process, so it will cause vomiting It hasn’t hurt a single person so far, and everyone has felt better after vomiting. In every case, when diarrhea hits or vomiting takes place, assume that it is needed and that it is a good indication that healing is taking place.
In rare cases, the body’s bowel system is not working and a person may vomit to eliminate poisons and waste from their system. A person may even develop skin rashes as the poisons attempt to get out through the skin. In such cases, use a laxative. The best one that I know is the Senna herb.

Sennosides are extracted from the Senna herb and they exercise the bowel muscles, expelling more waste than any other method.
Sennosides are sold by Walmart and by health food stores and pharmacies and used by millions of people.

Severe Fatigue

When the body is very busy dealing with dead pathogens and trying to eliminate all the toxins and debris, it can get tired. If the MMS doses have been a little too high, the fatigue can be severe, such that a person cannot stay awake. At work, a person might fall asleep with their head on the desk. At home, a good nap might be inevitable. The condition is not painful or uncomfortable. It only lasts for a couple of hours, and during that time you may feel like you simply do not want to move. This extra sleep is beneficial and helps the body clear itself of disease.
However, if the fatigue is more severe than is acceptable or practical, lower MMS doses will help. As with nausea, just use smaller doses until the body can catch up with elimination and does not get so tired. Then gradually increase the dosage again, staying just under the “nausea barrier”, according to the particular protocol you are using.



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These headlines give the impression people are drinking 28% sodium chlorite.

No one is drinking 28% sodium chlorite when you follow Jim Humble`s Protocols.

It is 3 drops of 28% sodium chlorite activated with 3 drops of 50 % citric acid for 20 seconds with the the result which is chlorine dioxide - ClO2. Then add a glass of water and drink which becomes a concentration of 1 ppm of chlorine dioxide, an oxidizer which has weaker oxidation voltage than oxygen.

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These headlines give the impression people are drinking 28% sodium chlorite.

No one is drinking 28% sodium chlorite when you follow Jim Humble`s Protocols.

It is 3 drops of 28% sodium chlorite activated with 3 drops of 50 % citric acid for 20 seconds with the the result which is chlorine dioxide - ClO2. Then add a glass of water and drink which becomes a concentration of 1 ppm of chlorine dioxide, an oxidizer which has weaker oxidation voltage than oxygen.

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The first link's title seems fair and in the text it has this paragraph.

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MMS is a 28% sodium chlorite solution which is equivalent to industrial-strength bleach. When taken as directed it could cause severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea, potentially leading to dehydration and reduced blood pressure.
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When used as directed, the FDA says Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) produces chlorine dioxide, a potent bleach often used in industrial water treatment and stripping textiles.
The third didn't have the caveat but the report seemed fair to me.

You also said:

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Then add a glass of water and drink which becomes a concentration of 1 ppm of chlorine dioxide, an oxidizer which has weaker oxidation voltage than oxygen.
Bolding yours.



Are you serious?

What is the voltage of regular oxygen?

What is the voltage of chlorine dioxide?

Does the amperage change in addition to the voltage?
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Show me an industrial application of chlorine dioxide that is 1ppm.

Oxidation is Oxidation........the process the human body was designed for.

Many detoxification programs will have symptoms of nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea.. Collodial silver will cause a Herxheimer reaction on an intial detox.
: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/herxheimer.html





From post # 29 ----By way of comparison, chlorine dioxide (.95 mV) has a milder oxidation effect than hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), which has an oxidation potential of 1.78 mV and collects 2 electrons, or Ozone (O3) whose oxidation potential is 2.07 mV, and only collects 2 electrons.
[Source: Lenntech Water Treatment Systems http://www.lenntech.com/processes/di...ne-dioxide.htm ]

Oxygen 1.2 mV

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Default Controlled Clinical Evaluations of Chlorine Dioxide, Chlorite and Chlorate in Man

Controlled Clinical Evaluations of Chlorine Dioxide, Chlorite and Chlorate in Man
Environmental Health Perspectives
Vol. 46, pp. 57-62, 1982

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...00463-0059.pdf


This is a report of a test where people were given Chlorine dioxide for months with no bad effects. Copy and paste in the internet address area if it doesn't work by click. By JudithR. Lubbers,*Sudha Chauan,*and Joseph R. Bianchine



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when I was 6yo all my gold fish died the very first time I changed their water,
because of the chlorine gas they put in the tap water.
Thankfully I've survived. so far.

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when I was 6yo all my gold fish died the very first time I changed their water,
because of the chlorine gas they put in the tap water.
Thankfully I've survived. so far.

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What process does your city use to disinfect the tap water?

It isn`t chlorine gas they put in your tap water, it is more likely chlorine the chemical (Javex) that is used for the process of chlorination and now cities are also adding chloramine. Risks of chlorination by-products (THMs-Trihalomethanes) have an increased risk of cancer. Several studies on humans have also found a link between long-term exposure to high levels of chlorination by-products and a higher risk of cancer. For instance, a recent study showed an increased risk of bladder and possibly colon cancer in people who drank chlorinated water for 35 years or more.


Some cities use the oxidizer chlorine dioxide in high concentrations ppm. It is a chlorine molecule with 2 oxygen molecules attached........ClO2.



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Chlorine that is used for the process of chlorination is bad for you.

Chlorine dioxide is good for you. ClO2 oxidizes pathogens in the water at the treatment plant source. By the time it gets to your house , the ClO2 is next to nil as it has fallen apart because of it`s weak bonds.

Most of Europe does not use chlorination for water treatment. Their water is initially disinfected by contact with ozone-rich air in a series of chambers.



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Default Woman Eliminating Lyme Disease with MMS / Chlorine Dioxide / ClO2

Woman Eliminating Lyme Disease with MMS / Chlorine Dioxide / ClO2

MMS - LYME DISEASE test results from IGENEX

IGENEX INC.
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IGeneX Inc. is a Reference Laboratory specializing in State-of-the-Art Clinical and Research Testing for Lyme Disease and Associated Tick-borne Diseases

Webpage contains IGENEX test results before and after following MMS Protocols to remove the pathogens of Lyme Disease.

http://not2bforgot10.wordpress.com/2...s-from-igenix/



“The first result was 1 month before I started taking MMS on 02/07/2011 – lyme disease diagnosis “POSITIVE;” the 2nd result A.K.A. the “follow-up,” 3 months after taking MMS DILIGENTLY, 8 hours per day every single day) on 07/11/2011. EVERY SINGLE BAN BUT 1 IS COMPLETELY GONE. NOT ONLY HAVE THE “STRENGTHS” (INDICATED BY THE AMOUNT OF “+” MARKS ELIMINATED, BUT GONE ENTIRELY).

Current- It has been almost a year since my last test, and I need to get a follow up. The last time I took MMS was in January of this year. I haven’t taken it for the past 6 months, and I just started it up on June 14th of this year. I will be taking it again to be sure everything is definitely gone.”

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154 cases of Malaria cured with MMS-Chlorine Dioxide-ClO2 in co-operation with the Red Cross in Uganda


This clinical study conducted along with the Red Cross in Uganda demonstrates the efficiency of MMS (clo2) against malaria. Every 40 seconds a child dies of malaria - there are 2,000 children a day worldwide. In Africa, the tropical disease remains one of the main causes of death. The solution is so simple but the pharmaceutical industry is not interested. If the truth comes out, that a cure for malaria is possible with a simple water disinfectant, it would not be profitable or patentable. In this clinical study with 781 subjects and 154 malaria patients, 143 sick were healed in just one day with a single dose! The remaining 11 the next day. A world sensation! We must congratulate the Red Cross for having the courage to innovate!
Malaria is finally defeated.

Jim Humble: "I hope you do not think that The Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS) is just
another very interesting supplement that can help some people after taking it for several months. Not so. MMS often works in a few hours. It destroys the #1 killer of mankind, malaria, in 4 hours. The victim goes back to work the next day. If patients in the nearest hospital were treated with this Miracle Mineral, over 50% of them would be back home within a week.
Amazing as it might seem, when used correctly, the immune system can use this killer to only attack those germs, bacteria, viruses, molds, and other micro organisms that are harmful to the body. It does not affect friendly bacteria, including the intestinal flora, nor healthy cells."



Malaria, Malaria, Malaria
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The last five days have been extraordinarily interesting for me – here’s what happened in Iganga:

From the 12th – 16th December 2012 an organization called Water Reference Center in cooperation with Uganda Red Cross Iganga branch did a study on a common water purifier and its medical effects on malaria positive people in Luuka district in Iganga – and I was part of it!

The Belgium representative of the Water Reference Center Klaas and the Dutch book author Leo came on Wednesday morning from Kampala to the Red Cross office in Iganga. They gave us a short briefing on the program for the days and information about the water purifying chemicals we were going to use. Two vehicles were packed with water bottles, mosquito nets, technical equipment and a team of about 13 people, including a camera man, six Ugandan Red Cross volunteers, Enno and me, departed for Luuka district.

Having arrived in Luuka people were already waiting for us. Different stations including the registration, the malaria fast test point, the lab, the result interpretation point and the purified water distribution was set up and volunteers were assigned to their respective stations.

People – and I have to stress the point that we had everyone from a one month old baby to over 80 years old people turning up for malaria testing – were registered first and went for a malaria fast test afterwards. If the test showed positive they got tested again with a blood strip under the microscope. Tested negative or positive, people were given purified water which was prepared by Ronald, Enno and me. Thereby the amount of drops of water purifier varied by age and malaria status. After taking the purified water people were also given bottled water to take home as they had to drink a lot for the chemical to take action in the body. The next day the malaria positive cases were told to come back for another test and a present in form of a mosquito net. The immediate reactions after taking the purified water were worrying to me: People disliked the smell, taste and some children had to vomit. Unfortunately we had to tell people that these symptoms might carry on at home for the day.

The following days showed an unbelievable result: On average we tested and treated around 150 people per day. About 95% of the people tested malaria positive were tested malaria negative after only one day while the remaining 5% were tested malaria negative after taking another dose the day after. Among the 5 % who tested malaria positive again were children, whom we had given a too small dose of the purified water since we were worried about the vomiting.

I have got to say that I was skeptical about the water purifier and the whole project for the first two days. But I was thoroughly amazed to see .....................continued
http://kerstingoesuganda.wordpress.c...laria-malaria/



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Andreas Kalcker MMS conference "Forbidden Health" - 1hr 27min.


Andreas Klacker calls himself a positive skeptic. When he first heard of Jim Humble`s MMS and Protocols he said this is either the greatest discovery for health and healing in the last 75 years or this is the one greatest frauds. So he set out to prove what MMS is. The results showed that MMS can be used and is effective for health and healing.

A very interesting conference of Andreas Kalcker in February 2012. "Forbidden Health " final edition with English voice over by himself. This lecture explains Andreas Ludwig Kalcker the "how" and "why's" of this discovery and the prohibitions as well as the non-marketing by big pharma.

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Oh no!

Not this shit again..,
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:19 PM   #44
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Oh no!

Not this shit again..,
Still waiting for scientific double blind peer reviewed research?

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I have been taking/drinking chlorine dioxide (Cl02) daily for 5 years now with a maintenance dose of 3 drops activated twice a day which is 3 drops of 28% sodium chlorite solution mixed with 3 drops of 50% citric acid solution, wait 20 seconds, add 8 ozs of water becomes a 1 ppm chlorine dioxide solution.

A month ago I completed a MMS-1 detox program.

Each dose is 3 drops 28% NaClO2 solution with 3 drops 50% citric acid solution, wait 20 seconds, add 8 ozs water which becomes a 1 ppm chlorine dioxide solution.

I also add 3 drops DMSO -wait three minutes to bind and drink.

I do this every hour for 10 hours a day for 21 days to complete the MMS1 detox program.

Then I started and completed the MMS2 detox program for 21 days.

This is the 3rd time in 5 years that I have completed both detox programs.


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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/k...-miracle-cure/

Seven kids removed from Arkansas ‘prepper’ family’s home over use of bogus ‘miracle’ cure
Travis Gettys
20 Jan 2015 at 14:45 ET


Authorities removed seven homeschooled children from an Arkansas “prepper” family during a search for a bogus “miracle” cure their father uses.

State troopers and Garland County authorities executed a search warrant Jan. 12 at the home of Hal and Michelle Stanley, and their school-age children were taken by ambulance for a medical examination after officers found containers marked “MMS.”

Miracle Mineral Solution is touted as a miracle cure for cancer, AIDS, malaria, and possibly Ebola, but the Food and Drug Administration said the substance can be turned into a potent bleach and cause serious health issues if ingested.

Users say they can tell the substance is working if they become nauseated – which the FDA argues will happen if it’s used as directed.

“The product, when used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health,” the FDA warns. “The product instructs consumers to mix the 28 percent sodium chlorite solution with an acid such as citrus juice. This mixture produces chlorine dioxide, a potent bleach used for stripping textiles and industrial water treatment. High oral doses of this bleach, such as those recommended in the labeling, can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and symptoms of severe dehydration.”

Health officials have warned that it could cause more serious health issues, including death, if the product is not sufficiently diluted.

MMS was developed and promoted by Jim Humble, who claims he can heal by touch and quit Scientology to form his own church to help promote his so-called miracle cure in Africa and Mexico.

Humble claims MMS has been used by the Red Cross in Africa, and he claims to have run clinical trials on the substance at a prison in Malawi.

Hal Stanley, a pastor and Tea Party speaker, insisted he does not administer MMS to his children, but he admits to taking the mineral substance and using it to purify water in his garden — which the family uses as a primary source of food.

Michelle Stanley said an anonymous caller reported last month that the couple’s children were running around barefoot in the winter cold, but she explained to police that they had shoes but liked to go outside to photograph their footprints in the snow.

But law enforcement returned last week with a search warrant and questioned the couple about MMS.

“After stepping outside they issued us a search warrant and said we could not enter our house or talk to our kids until the search and the investigation was through,” Michelle Stanley said. “They said the charge was that we had a poisonous substance in our house and that the kids were being exposed to it and it endangered their welfare.”

The Department of Human Services ordered the children removed from their home for 72 hours, but that has been extended to more than a week.

The Stanleys, who also have two grown children who attend college elsewhere, were allowed to visit Saturday with their children.

DHS filed its report Friday, which the Stanleys said focused entirely on MMS as the reason the children were removed and had nothing to do with their homeschooling.

Michelle Stanley denied Saturday in a Facebook post that the children had taken the substance, saying she and her husband “would never do anything knowingly to hurt any of our children.”

But she appeared to qualify her denial in remarks published Monday to World Net Daily.

“Never has it been used in any way to ‘poison’ our kids or even expose them in such a way as to endanger their lives,” Michelle Stanley said.


The DHS is not required to tell parents who lodged accusations of abuse or neglect, but the department must issue a report detailing the claims and then work with families to ensure their children’s needs are met.

Court action may be taken to ensure parents or guardians properly care for children in the care.

The Stanleys did not list the specific allegations made against them about MMS and their children’s exposure to the substance, but they plan to dispute the claims in a court hearing — although Michelle Stanley admits the negative information authorities have gathered about MMS has “hurt our stand in court.”

The Arkansas statute on child endangerment lists “extreme or repeated cruelty” to children among possible violations, and it also includes prohibitions against intentional or non-justifiable conduct that causes physical abuse or the threat of death or permanent impairment.

DHS and law enforcement agencies declined media requests for comment and have not indicated whether the Stanleys could face criminal charges.

The Stanleys have said they would give up their MMS to have their children returned, but the product’s proponents insist it’s no more dangerous than other commercially available drugs approved by the FDA.

“This stuff is a game changer, I have taken it for several years now and illness is a thing of the past,” says one Amazon reviewer. “Thumb your nose at the FDA and big Pharma. Believe this bookand all Jim Humble has to say. You don`t need your doctors permission to be healthy.”
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MMS cured a sore in my mouth that had been there 20 years. That was ten years ago, it has not returned.

I don't need to know why it worked, it did work. End of topic. I don't care who laughs at me for using it, I became free of a previously persistent problem.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:39 PM   #49
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How about urinetherapy which millions use all around the world. Would they take away a child from a couple who believe it works.

That is a slippery slope there.

I've had crazy stuff that worked for me, and proven FDA approved stuff that had bad side effects.
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