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Old 09-11-2015, 11:02 AM   #1
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Default 2015 Flu shot (Northern Hemiphere)

I had one yesterday. It is really kicking my *** this year.

It was the trivalent Northern Hemisphere multidose.

I had it about noon, and about 5pm I could feel it coming on.

I was hot/cold all night, muscle aches, especially the large thigh muscles. I went to bed about 9pm (very unusual) and slept (if you could call it that) until about 7am.

I awoke with a low grade headache which is still kind of around at 10am and I am still feeling slow.
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Old 09-13-2015, 03:23 PM   #2
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Whoa. I'll be skipping it this year if the side effects are too gnarly. The one I got when H1N1 was around was incredibly nasty.
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I've been lax in looking up the formulation this year. The A/Switzerland2013 component is a change from 2014-2015's A/Texas H3N2 flu strain.

Whenever there is change in one or more of the components, more people tend to react. Better a 'kick ass' reaction to the vaccine than a bout with that strain. A strong reaction usually indicates a person had little or no antibodies to that particular strain.

The 'B' strain was changed as well from B/Massechussetts to B/Phuket.


http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals...on/virusqa.htm


http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/...-selection.htm
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I had one ten days ago. My arm hurt for four days but other than that, no reaction this year. Of course, being on yet another multi week course of antibiotics may have had something to do with it.
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Old 09-13-2015, 04:32 PM   #5
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Our PA asked if we wanted ours yesterday, dd got hers and a Hep A shot. She howled quite a bit, then konked out on the couch at home. She has been pointing to the injection sites on her thighs and saying "ouchie!" today.

I'm glad I decided to wait for mine, even though I can get the nasal one that is not devoid of side effects. I will decide later if the side effects exceed my tolerance level.

ETA: My dh is getting allergy shots and those are quite unpleasant especially with the pollen counts around 10 every day. He is going to ask if it's a good idea to get the flu vaccine while he's in the "shots every few days"part.
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I'm kind of conflicted about getting the shot because it doesn't seem to help me that much. But, I must admit that the reason for that could well be my dysfunctional immune system.

Two years ago, I got the shot in the fall, and ended up getting the flu in September of the following year. I didn't get the shot last fall, and ended up getting the flu in June of this year.

I'll probably get the shot. I just wish that 1. - it would offer longer lasting protection and 2. - I will stop catching the flu in the off-seasons, when it's supposedly not going around anymore.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:32 PM   #7
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I'm kind of conflicted about getting the shot because it doesn't seem to help me that much. But, I must admit that the reason for that could well be my dysfunctional immune system.

Two years ago, I got the shot in the fall, and ended up getting the flu in September of the following year. I didn't get the shot last fall, and ended up getting the flu in June of this year.

I'll probably get the shot. I just wish that 1. - it would offer longer lasting protection and 2. - I will stop catching the flu in the off-seasons, when it's supposedly not going around anymore.
The immunity only lasts 6 months...
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I'm glad I decided to wait for mine, even though I can get the nasal one that is not devoid of side effects. I will decide later if the side effects exceed my tolerance level.
Ahh, Flu Mist. Yea, had that about 6-7 years ago.

"Attenuated virus" so you get a mini case of the flu.

Flumist and this year for me were the same. Never again.

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The immunity only lasts 6 months...
I am not a physician, nor did I play one on TV, but that might be an unfair characterization.

The highest level of protection only for 6-8 months? Yes, I might buy that.

But you keep the antibodies a LONG time. While it may not stop getting the flu it is attenuated for many years. (Same for colds)

Only when they change the components to something new or you get one that is immunologically novel, say from travelling overseas, you get wacked hard.
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Pot - feeling better now?
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it's pretty complicated.
Some argue that the vaccination makes it even worse for mismatched strains.
And while infection >60 years ago clearly helped in the 1957 and 1968 pandemics
(and probably even _more_ in 1918, but this is debated),
the 1976 swine flu vax didn'y protect in 2009. I haven't seen the studies yet
that show the seasonal vax protects for more than 1-2 years.
It depends on the exact strain and is hard to predict.

Australia had flu B this season. Quite much.

September might be too early for the vax, it wanes until Feb.,Mar
when usually B peaks.

When you are over 60 then the pneumovax seems to be more important
than the flu vax
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:34 AM   #11
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I was vaccinated early last year,before they announced the vaccine they were using wouldn't be very effective against the strain going around..
Will most likely get one this year but will wait awhile..
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Oh, yea. 24 hours and I was operational, full functioning n 36.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:13 PM   #13
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One of those weird little ERs near us sent me a thing for "free flu shots." DD had hers already and DH gets his free through work. DS needs his and DHs other child so we'll save $40 from our HSA. I really hate needles and I cannot stand having an acutely sore arm. I don't remember having intolerable side effects from the FluMist when I got it last year. Hmmm.

Eta: FluMist shouldn't be given to asthmatics lol oops.
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Make sure the shot goes into your non-dominant arm & more importantly, USE that arm as much as you can during the day, after you get the shot. It tends to cut down on redness, swelling & soreness.

In case you do react to this year's shot, try to pick a "shot day" where you don't have anything critical to do in the next 48 hours - crucial appointments, essential shopping, etc.
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Make sure the shot goes into your non-dominant arm & more importantly, USE that arm as much as you can during the day, after you get the shot. It tends to cut down on redness, swelling & soreness.

In case you do react to this year's shot, try to pick a "shot day" where you don't have anything critical to do in the next 48 hours - crucial appointments, essential shopping, etc.
*points to kids and laughs* let's just say I have pretty strong biceps.

I'll think on it; some nurses are horrible at giving injections, yet others are amazing. :/
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A few days annoyance from a poorly given shot or one to which you react beats the stuffing out of trying to cope with 2 small kids at home when you're flattened.

Happened to me once - nothing makes you feel like Mother of the Year like barely having the energy to change diapers & being lucky if the soiled ones hit the garbage.

Meals? The older one knew where the cereal & crackers were & could handle juice boxes...

Yeah it can get that bad.
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A few days annoyance from a poorly given shot or one to which you react beats the stuffing out of trying to cope with 2 small kids at home when you're flattened.

Happened to me once - nothing makes you feel like Mother of the Year like barely having the energy to change diapers & being lucky if the soiled ones hit the garbage.

Meals? The older one knew where the cereal & crackers were & could handle juice boxes...

Yeah it can get that bad.
I know, it's just the H1N1 combo one back in the day was like red hot lava and made my arm so sore, if I rolled on it while sleeping, I woke up weeping in agony. I rode the bus petrified of being accidentally bumped to class. It was far worse than the tetanus shot I got a few years before by magnitudes! I am not kidding that it was horrible and excruciating. I don't know if it was the fault of the nurse or the ingredients in the vaccine. Shudder.

I cannot risk getting the flu, either. I think I'll just wait to go to my regular doc office and get the FluMist; it didn't trigger my asthma last time and I never got the flu, either.
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Get your doc's opinion on FluMist for you, considering your asthma & if he/she doesn't see a problem... go with that.

I've got really skinny arms & have had the odd nurse stab me right in the bone. Lovely.

We have licenced our pharmacists to give flu shots & I went that route last year - she did a brilliant job & when I pointed out by scrawny little arms, she went for a smaller needle length. Three hours later, I couldn't even find the tiny puncture mark.
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Get your doc's opinion on FluMist for you, considering your asthma & if he/she doesn't see a problem... go with that.

I've got really skinny arms & have had the odd nurse stab me right in the bone. Lovely.

We have licenced our pharmacists to give flu shots & I went that route last year - she did a brilliant job & when I pointed out by scrawny little arms, she went for a smaller needle length. Three hours later, I couldn't even find the tiny puncture mark.
Omg that sounds painful. Great she listened to your concerns.
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I remember having the flu with three little ones. They were great nurses. They climbed into bed on top of me, read to me for hours and hours, turned on cartoons so I could watch tv, made very interesting meals for me, and put very very wet towels on my face when I was sleeping so I would cool down. Then my mother came to help and slept at the foot of my bed all night long and asked how I felt, every 15 minutes.

I had a miraculous recovery and made sure to get a flu shot every year thereafter.
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Well intended ones no doubt but when you're that sick, you'd prefer to die quietly, in the dark with only the soft sounds of your own anguished whimpers keeping you company.
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Never, EVER get the flu when you have small children. Your misery is magnified greatly.

The girls and I had it once when one was in school, one not yet. OMG, when flu shots were available the following fall I ran all three of us to be first in line.
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the needle was so thin, I didn't feel it.
Efficiency is only ~60%, though.
Don't forget the pneumovax every ~5-10 years if you are over 60.
Flumist is only recommended for children, afaik.
In adults the normal shot has better efficiency in average.
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I got mine yesterday morning. Other than a sore arm for a few hours, I am good.
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