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Old 09-18-2011, 01:34 PM   #1
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Default Expiry for preps?

Cleaning out the pantry and wondering about unopened items purchased 6 years back or so. I have read in many articles that dates stamped on food and even medicine don't truly reflect expiration of usefulness and things are generally good years past the "best by" date.

So how about unopened items like: hydrogen peroxide, betadyn, listerine, sambucol, alka selzer plus, neosporin, itch cream, etc.

Is there an online FAQ that I can check for items like this to see what can be kept for another few years? (The bad economy has reached my house, I'm afraid.)
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Old 09-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #2
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PatS, try http://www.stilltasty.com/ and http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/up...ate1103a.shtml

Hydrogen peroxide should last a long time if unopened, but anything with corn syrup or oils (excluding petroleum and mineral oils) could possibly spoil if very old or exposed to heat. Packages can rupture in the cold too, and damage the contents.

I'd err on the side of safety with anything you plan on ingesting, but just the sniff test for rub ons... if it is rancid you'll know right away, and at worst it just won't be as effective.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:34 AM   #3
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Thanks, flourbug. Everything's been kept in the requisite cool, dry place. I did have a bottle of Sambucol, opened probably 5 years ago, that smelled just fine. But since it was open, it'll get tossed.

I have a few small boxes of canned and bottled food, my "pandemic stash" that needs to be replaced. Much of it is a year or two past its best buy date. Does anyone know if any place accepts older food or does it need tossing? I've been eating out of it, but I'm thinking the government won't allow it to go to a homeless person because it's past its bb date...
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PatS, I pretty much ignore expiration date on canned items. Unless the can is bulging or leaking, I open it. If it looks okay and smells okay, I eat it. Canned items really don't go bad, it is the taste, texture, and color that deteriorates over time. Bottles and home canned items are different, and also pop top cans like soda and canned soups can have small leaks that can't be seen from the outside. I am wary no matter what the expiration date is... I look for spoilage, mold, etc, then boil for at least 15 min.

Don't know about food pantries accepting expired canned goods. Call and see.
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In 1970 the military was feeding us C-rations canned in 1945. I lost a lot of weight that year so maybe the food value was low. Come to think of it, maybe I should try it again... ;-)
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The food bank DID take the past-best by dated foods. I kept some and replaced some, now that I see what got eaten and what didn't. No sense keeping stuff on the shelf that we aren't going to use up.
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I've been eating my preps for a year now..,

Expirations are about 1 to 2 years old. I haven't found anything that seems or ends up tasing unpalatable yet..,

So far so good.
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What about antivirals?
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What about antivirals?
Google for "Patriot Nurse". She goes all into that on a YouTube video and some research that has been performed.
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A big black indelible marker works well for erasing those pesky sell-by dates.
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We opened a 6yo can of soup about a month ago My ds REALLY wanted some chicken noodle. Like REALLY wanted it, and a 14 yo will not be denied when hungry...

The noodles were a bit soft, but he never mentioned it.
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I had 3 years worth of food stored up around the summer of 2005.

The 10 cases of beer and 20 bottles of wine went first.

The peanut butter lasted for a year before it was all gone - I think I had 30 jars.

I never ate all of the canned meats. I donated several hundred canned goods to charity winning me a $100 gift certificate (I think this was a wash).

I had some Kraft mac & cheese - the cheese went bad.

Now - 7 1/2 years later, it will soon be time to open the two containers of powdered milk!!!! That is all that is left. I think I spent $20.00 total for them and could not bring myself to throw them away.

More on this later.
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What about antivirals?
I remember Tamiflu was dated good for 5 years from it's production date. Then a year or so ago that was extended another 2 years.

On the one hand there is pressure on the company that makes Tamiflu to extend the "good to use date" from governments that have invested Billions of dollars in Tamiflu stockpiles. On the other hand, the manufacturer would like to sell more Tamiflu at those huge profits.

If in doubt, just double the dose. That worked best for H5N1, and I notice that the CDC is hinting that more Tamiflu, taken longer than previously recommended, might work best for H7N9 too.

Keep your eyes open for treatment details.



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