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Old 02-20-2017, 12:21 PM   #1
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I have been reading several books on diseases. It occurred to me that computers might have already formed simple pseudo life forms. It is possible that they are at the single cell or small multi-cell level and not even aware of our existence. Humans were not aware of bacteria and viruses until methods were created/discovered to observe their existence.

I propose the possibility that simple life may already exist in some computer systems or networks and not be "aware" of us.

Further, they may already be battling each other for dominance - albeit in a very rudimentary fashion.
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And there was me thinking AI stood for artificial insemination
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Are we talking about digital or organic life forms ?
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Are we talking about digital or organic life forms ?
Both.
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What in the world makes you think such a thing andy?
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When humans gathered together in a town of about 7000 people, says the book, there is sufficient density to allow a parasitic organism to continually survive. That period is when humans first developed diseases that - after eons, became childhood diseases.

When the shear number of computers are interconnected, with trillions of lines of code and expanding capability, it might start generating simple life forms alien to us. Those simple life forms may not know we exist for decades or hundreds of years. We might also be unaware of their existence - ever. I do not think we are looking for them, just as scientist no very little about life in the deep oceans - but at least they are looking THERE!
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andy I don't think the current digital landscape is similar to the organic world. All computer systems, starting from CPU and RAMS on the 0,1 level are error checked and random "mutations" of the programs are next to impossible because to compare it to organic life, all programs have been created, not evolved and they don't have procreation functions (program codes another program), except for some PhD thesis (I feel like a creationist )
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I've long believed that sleep, and the need to sleep, are somehow related to our sentience and that of other life forms. After hundreds of years of philosophizing and thousands of experiments, scientists still cannot figure out why we need to sleep and what role it plays. If there is true AI, it will need to sleep. I remember HAL at the end of 2010 asking Bob Balaban's character "Will I dream?". That really struck me. My thought was "Yeah. I bet he will.".
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Another good artical...



http://theweek.com/articles/689359/h...l-intelligence
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Oric said ...
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"mutations" of the programs are next to impossible
Au contraire !

While the program code area on your home computer is protected
from modification that is only be cause it is designed that way .

It is trivial to build computers that can modify their own
computer programs and/or the algorithms they use .

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A little bit of bad memory can go a long way also.
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A lightning strike or static could mix up the memory enough to "become". Just because you do not understand it - does not mean it can not happen.
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I propose the possibility that simple life may already exist in some computer systems or networks and not be "aware" of us.
To which I expressed my opinion of inpossibility, as the current set of everything

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It is trivial to build computers that can modify their own
computer programs and/or the algorithms they use .
That is another possibility but not the question I answered
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No offense to anyone, but to be honest I find this entire AI-becoming-self-aware-and-dangerous-subject really sad and preposterous. Sad in what it says about society...in the 1970's the educated class was active and highly distressed about starvation in Africa. Now people worry about Terminator-the-movie becoming real.

Folks we have real things to worry about. Or we could just look away...
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:06 AM   #16
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Dietrich,

I am not going "tin hat". I am just saying that it might be theoretically possible to have a simple life form right in front of us for a hundred years and we do not recognize it nor does it recognize us. More ameba and less Terminator.
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